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#6621 - 03/29/08 02:39 PM Stress Headaches.
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I get stress headaches that can often lead to migraines. That can be caused by severe emotional stress but also physical stress like constant flashing lights, loud noise, intense lights, overdoing exercise and some other factors.

I was wondering, does anyone here have and suggestions of how to lessen them and control stress levels. I've had a lot on my mind with financial troubles and I'm had a fair amount of physical stress training for my TA assessments. Any idea would be good.

I've tried meditation, as I do Aikido and meditate frequently, however that just seems to delay it. I've tried headache tablet and they just ease the pain a little, lower my temperature or delay the headache. The only thing that's worked so far is sleeping for about 6+ hours whenever I get these headaches which is disrupting my life.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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#6629 - 03/29/08 04:28 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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Sex, or getting off.

It does help to relieve stress.

I think we could all use a little more "stress relief".



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#6632 - 03/29/08 04:47 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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This might sound stupid TC, but have you tried acupuncture?

Morg, sex is great stress relief, but when you orgasm it makes your head feel like its going to explode (which might not ease migarain lol).
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#6633 - 03/29/08 04:52 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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Hmm, not sure what you are doing, but usually its a great release. I dont worry about brain pressure/CO2/O2 levels unless I am choking someone unconscience.

Acupuncture might work if it redirects the nerve impulses and increases the sertonin/dopamine output.

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#6635 - 03/29/08 04:56 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: Morgan]
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I never considered acupuncture before, I'll look into it.
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#6638 - 03/29/08 05:10 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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 Originally Posted By: TornadoCreator
I never considered acupuncture before, I'll look into it.
The reason why is because my sister actually has very bad migrains, and she doesn't like the pharmaceutical industry, and i have a close friend who is taking acupuncture classes, and she gave my sister some green tea, a neck massage, and acupunctured her ears and stuff (? i know, ears?); and mys sister says it made her feel better, and she hasn't had another migrain since then? Give it a try!
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#6645 - 03/29/08 06:06 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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How about something hot to drink, teas without an overpowering aroma or flavor, or sometimes dehydration can cause migraines.

Though, when I said I popped an advil in the last thread I was just trying to show that we are only human and subjugating the epitome of religious words is something I don't usually even attempt (more like contempt) to be a part of, when I get migraines they come on from mental stress or dehydration, and tea is usually the cure.
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#6672 - 03/29/08 08:59 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: Kon]
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I take in a lot of fluid but it's almost exclusively carbonated soft-drinks, occasionally I drink apple juice or chocolate milkshakes but normally it's coca-cola.
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#6723 - 03/30/08 07:59 AM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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You could always try panadine forte, its like a really powerful asprin, but I also heard that like Kon said its just caused from dehydration, so I guess just drink plenty of water. hope all goes well for you.

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#6724 - 03/30/08 08:52 AM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: Slaya]
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Nice to meet you Ashlee, as much as appreciate the advice unfortunately I can't take strong asprin as I'm asthmatic. Thanks anyway.
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#6727 - 03/30/08 09:20 AM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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I suggest applying a cold cloth to the temple? Or if it's cold where you are like here then stand outside for a bit. But yes fresh air, relaxing, breathe in and out slowly and apply a very cold cloth to the temple of the side that hurts more. Or stick your head in the freezer. Seriously, migraines and headaches can often be caused by stress and such that tightens the arteries in your head and rectricts the blood flow. Most of the time adding cold pressure or even being in cold air such as a freezer will often help relieve most of the pain and pressure. Try it out and let me know. Just remember that when you DO get migraines or the like to relax and breathe. I know it's hard but it will work added with some advil/tylenol and some cold air. The best thignt o do would be if you lived in the country and it is cold out then go out and relax for a few minutes. Anyway try what you can and tell me how it works out for you.

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#6732 - 03/30/08 11:04 AM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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 Originally Posted By: TornadoCreator
I get stress headaches that can often lead to migraines. That can be caused by severe emotional stress but also physical stress like constant flashing lights, loud noise, intense lights, overdoing exercise and some other factors.

I was wondering, does anyone here have and suggestions of how to lessen them and control stress levels.

Stop reading my posts… \:\)

Seriously though…

First don’t let things beyond your control stress you… The best thing to remove financial stress is work… Work takes your mind off of things and it makes you money, solving or at least helping your financial situation…

Second coffee can help with headaches… I have heard it has something to do with either opening or constricting the blood vessels… But you will have to research the facts there for yourself if interested… It works for me and that is good enough…

Stop smoking cigarettes or at least try to cut down if you smoke…

If all else fails go see a neurologist, it may be more serious than you think… I had a neurologist from YALE Medical tell me that it is common for people to start having seizures around the ages of 22-24 if you are so destined…

Remember a seizure can be something as simple as a headache or a strange smell… Most are brought on by mental or physical stress…

Ta-Ta

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#6734 - 03/30/08 11:35 AM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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Some of it could be from being over-stimulated from the environment. Or it could just be nutrition (Not like I'm a vegan or anything).

Besides the fluids that you are getting, try hydrating with plain old water like Slaya said. Good luck.
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#6741 - 03/30/08 12:21 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: Sinistar]
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This might be something to share with a doctor to make sure that they are indeed stress headaches, and not something else, such as low blood pressure, ciculation problems or some other medical condition.

Hydration (drinking water) might help as some said. It's easy to get a little bit dehydrated, because often times we forget to drink. By the time we feel thirsty, we might already be dehydrated. Personally, I'm not a big fan of water, but I find that I can greatly increase my intake if I use something like "Crystal Light" to flavor it. If you do that, then there is also the consideration of the artificial sweeteners, and what ever else is in there; but for me, that doesn't matter much.

As Ta2zz said, coffee does help often (it constricts the blood vessels, which in turn increases the blood pressure a bit.
If you find that coffee does work, you might want to be aware, that there is a certain amount of caffine addiction risk. That is to say, that if you don't have your two cups or so of CAFFINATED/Regular coffee, a day, then you will get headaches, even the migrane types.

If you want to take medication for it, the best over the counter med for headaches is Extra Strength Exeggerin (sp?). You can save money by buying generic brand, or store brand of this product. Just make sure they have the same "active" ingredients as the brand name, which are Caffine, Acetaminophen (that's generic for Tylenol) and Aspirin. Aspirin might be listed might also be called something like Acecilic Acid (the spelling is really off on it, but if you see it, you'll know it).

Used by themselves, Tylenol (Acetaminophen), Motrin (Ibuprophen) and Aspirin are not very effective, often not at all. FYI: Motrin is an anti-inflamation medication and is quite effective for muscle pain. Tylenol and Aspirin is good for "Malaise" which is general discomfort, and to bring fever down.

VERY IMPORTANT: If you decide to try caffine or over the counter medications for a headache, be SURE to take them AS SOON as you feel the headache come on. If you wait until it gets full blown, then the medications will probably not help.

JUST thought of something: If the headaches are "stress headaches" then it might mean that your muscles are tense and tight, and your blood pressure is already raised, which means you might be getting the headache from increase in blood pressure (Vaso-constriction aka narrowing of the blood vessels). This might make the use of caffine contra indicated, becuase adding caffine to stress, would obviously make it worse.

As you can see, there are a lot of considerations, which is why a doctor consult to find out the cause of the headache would be beneficial.



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#6744 - 03/30/08 12:29 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: PigFeeder]
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Seriously, migraines and headaches can often be caused by stress and such that tightens the arteries in your head and rectricts the blood flow. Most of the time adding cold pressure or even being in cold air such as a freezer will often help relieve most of the pain and pressure.


Well if it works, it works.
However, as far as I am aware, headaches more often are caused by the dialation (blood vessels open too much and drop blood pressure).
If one is exposed to cold, then the arteries constrict (close up more) which would increase blood pressure that might make the headache go away.

If the headache is cause by high blood pressure, or the constriction of arteries, then adding cold would make it worse. If this is the cause of the headache, then professional medical consultation would be greatly advisable to find out the main reason for it. The headache is usually a secondary side affect to something more serious then.

Cold will also increase the heart rate, because the body is attempting to circulate warm blood to all of the areas in the body, which again might help get rid of the headache.
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#6747 - 03/30/08 12:46 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: Asmedious]
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Hi Asmedeus. I heard cigarrets makes the vessels small too? Maybe this will work also like coffee? But if i smoke more than 5 cigarettes in a row, i get a bad headache and fell like throwing up.
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#6749 - 03/30/08 01:07 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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Hi Asmedeus. I heard cigarrets makes the vessels small too? Maybe this will work also like coffee? But if i smoke more than 5 cigarettes in a row, i get a bad headache and fell like throwing up.


It is true that cigarettes is a vaso-constrictor (makes vessels smaller). However, it also decreases oxygen levels in the body, which would be worse for a headache, because the whole point of the vessels constricting, and the pulse rate increasing, is to get more blood faster to the brain. Among other things, blood carries oxygen to the brain, and it is the oxygen level that the body is trying to increase to the brain.

That is why sex (exercise) is said to be good for headaches because it increases the blood flow to the brain, and the oxygen level.

However, this does not seem to be the case in TC's case, since he says that exercise makes it worse.
This makes me think that he might have a problem with high blood pressure, that causes his headaches. Exercise would increase the pressure more (while actually exercising). This is why the whole thing is better left to a medical doctor. There are so many things to consider.

Being a nurse, I know the basics of how things work, and have a LIMMITED knowledge of medical issues. But unlike many other nurses, I will be the first one to admit, that a little knowledge, can be more harmful then helpful.



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#6751 - 03/30/08 01:26 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: Asmedious]
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Hi Asmedeus. I heard cigarrets makes the vessels small too? Maybe this will work also like coffee? But if i smoke more than 5 cigarettes in a row, i get a bad headache and fell like throwing up.


It is true that cigarettes is a vaso-constrictor (makes vessels smaller). However, it also decreases oxygen levels in the body, which would be worse for a headache, because the whole point of the vessels constricting, and the pulse rate increasing, is to get more blood faster to the brain. Among other things, blood carries oxygen to the brain, and it is the oxygen level that the body is trying to increase to the brain.

That is why sex (exercise) is said to be good for headaches because it increases the blood flow to the brain, and the oxygen level.

However, this does not seem to be the case in TC's case, since he says that exercise makes it worse.
This makes me think that he might have a problem with high blood pressure, that causes his headaches. Exercise would increase the pressure more (while actually exercising). This is why the whole thing is better left to a medical doctor. There are so many things to consider.

Being a nurse, I know the basics of how things work, and have a LIMMITED knowledge of medical issues. But unlike many other nurses, I will be the first one to admit, that a little knowledge, can be more harmful then helpful.

Oh, I'm not in the medical field. I forgot that cigs reduces oxygen in the blood.

Well my sister got acupuncture for her migraines and bad head aches, and it has helped her dramatically. She doesn't get them so often, and when she does, they are as bad.
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#6787 - 03/30/08 10:06 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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Check your eyesight and how much time you are spending in front of the computer.

My husband was suffereing from stress headaches when he was spending alot of time in front of the computer. Turned out, his eyesight was slightly out and this coupled with the long hours doing work on the computer was the cause of the headaches.

After getting the right glasses fitted the headaches went away. Up until then he hadn't noticed a sight problem.

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#6804 - 03/31/08 02:09 AM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: Asmedious]
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I'm pretty sure being exposed to the cold opens up your arteries, but I could be wrong. I know it helps though because it does allow better blood flow and can relax you as long as you are not exposed to high winds and freezing cold for an over extended period of time.
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#7051 - 04/02/08 01:56 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: PigFeeder]
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I concur with Zeph. I had the same issue and subsequently discovered that I had a slight eye problem. I spend all day in front of a computer and since I've gotten glasses I haven't had a single migraine.
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#7053 - 04/02/08 02:23 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: truthseeker2000]
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Ok. Now that you mention it Asmedious, I often wonder if my blood pressure is too high because at night I can physically feel the blood rushing through my temples and neck, and more recently in my arm pit and arms (most often left), shoulder blades and chest as well.
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#7057 - 04/02/08 03:35 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: PigFeeder]
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I'm pretty sure being exposed to the cold opens up your arteries, but I could be wrong


Actually, I think I was the one wrong on that point. That will teach me to make posts while I'm half a sleep.

I will have to go back to the books and double check on it though.

However, it would make sense that the arteries would OPEN up from cold, because the body is attempting to move more blood to keep the body warm, and this would be achieved by OPENING the arteries, and increasing the heart rate.
This would explain why a cool compress to the head, will often ease a headache.

Well, as I tell my patients when I fuck up, "I said that I was a nurse, I never said that I was a good one." ;\)

On a side note, being only about 80-90% straight, I can admit that in a strange, gothic, perverse way, I find that new picture of "Pigfeeder" kind of sexy.


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#7062 - 04/02/08 05:23 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: Asmedious]
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Surprisingly, you have a migraine pressure point on each hand. It’s the fleshy part between your thumb and index finger. Using the thumb pad and index finger of your opposite hand, gradually squeeze the upper portion of this migraine pressure point, counting to 10 and breathing deeply. When you reach the deepest point, massage with tiny, circular motions, still holding the pressure. As you feel a change in the point, slowly release the pressure, counting to 10 as you do so. Repeat 10 times.

I've used the above technique for a long time, and it works well for me. It's also a nice way to initiate intimate contact with a stressed out girl who's complaining about a headache...

Anyway, I took the excerpt off of a website, since they explain the steps much better than I would. If that doesn't work, try drinking Feverfew extract. It's easy to find, and cheap. Just make sure you aren't allergic to it.

edit: Butcher's Broom is another herb that could help to prevent the onset of headaches. From my personal experience I've found that while taking the herb for aesthetic reasons (tightening the skin around my eyes), I don't suffer any stress induced headaches. Just remember to hydrate properly while taking it, or it might make you feel hung over after a week of daily dosing.
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#7072 - 04/02/08 07:48 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: Asmedious]
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it's a picture of Danni Filth if i'm not mistaken. Yeah, he is pretty sexy.

about TC's post, you said you drink alot of soft-drinks, is it diet coca cola or pepsi you're drinking by any chance? the reason why i ask is because i used to drink diet coke and chew alot of gum, until i started getting massive pulsating headaches and had to go to a neurosurgeon who told me it might be the aspartame intake. Sure enough, as soon as i stopped chewing gum with aspartame and drinking soda all together my headaches slowly decreased and are now completely gone.
whether it was the artificial sweetner or just a placebo effect i'm not sure, but it was affective nonetheless.


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#7114 - 04/03/08 06:13 AM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: L Fern Tej]
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I don't drink diet but I do drink a stupid amount of coca-cola.
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#7261 - 04/05/08 05:52 PM Re: Stress Headaches. [Re: TornadoCreator]
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Unfortunately I find myself in a very similar situation to you, the only difference being that headaches are something that I’ve been dealing with for years on a daily basis and at this point my entire life revolves around dealing with them. A few months ago I saw a neurologist which really ended up being a waste of time. He told me that I had tension and migraine headaches, that the pain I was experiencing was some of the most severe pain possible when it comes to headaches, and that legally he couldn’t prescribe any pain relief medication (narcotics) due to the government tightening the regulations over the past several years. So I’m still going to different doctors, I just started a new headache prevention medication a week ago, and I’m still researching different treatment options.

I did get some valid information from the neurologist that I wasn’t expecting to hear, and for anyone else out there who has been dealing with a long history of headaches this may be worth thinking about… Since my headaches started at a young age when I was actually living in an abusive home situation, and I have been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder, what appears to have happened is that during a crucial developmental period of life (puberty, adolescence) when a person’s brain is still developing as well as the way we respond to and cope with stimulus in the outside world, something abnormal occurred in the sense that at this time I was dealing with an unusual amount of stress and emotional trauma on a day to day basis. Essentially, my brain’s stress response was over stimulated and parts of my brain may have developed in a way that would not have otherwise happened had I been exposed to a different environment during those years.

The rest is pretty much general knowledge… Stress and a variety of other factors cause the muscles in your brain to contract, the contraction creates pain inside your head, and you wind up with a headache. For me and other people who happened to grow up in particularly harsh environments, that stress response and muscle contraction occurs far more often and makes the pain far more intense. I think science still has a long way to go in terms of understanding the anatomy of the brain and potentially discovering ways to reduce or eliminate the chronic pain that some headache sufferers have to deal with. In the meantime the best we can do is take a proactive approach to understanding our own bodies and making our health a priority rather than an afterthought.

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