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#6854 - 03/31/08 03:36 PM One World
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Okay the other day my friend showed me a very disturbing video about the Rockafellers and thier big buissness. It was disturbing cause of the ties that family has both in the Trades Market and Governments. The video had court documented voice and video recordings of secretive actions on the way a certain group wants to retaine their power hold on people. One of these conversations was about implanting a computer chip into all USA citizens. The chip will take the plcae of any cards, licenses, passports, credit/debit cards, everything. They can use the technology to track where you are at all times by the chip, and shut it off when they want, cutting you off of the "grid", no money, no identification, noithing you can't do nothing. I wanted to learn more about this plan but all my searches on the internet end in inaccurate information or missing information. Does anyone out there know what I am talking about? And if so what is really going on?
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#6858 - 03/31/08 04:27 PM Re: One World [Re: Pan420]
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Why don't you private message Samael. He's got a raging hard on for this kind of stuff.

Just a note to others that I'm being dead serious here, I'm not intending to mock Sam if he's still banned or on probation or whatever happened to him.

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For my part I have to say this is all just bullshit, and I've never seen any hard evidence of anything. Then again, my official employers are the Discordian Society, so I really ought to have added a disclaimer that all I'm doing is spreading misinformation.

EDIT: Or is that disinformation? Whatever.


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#6912 - 03/31/08 10:50 PM Re: One World [Re: ballbreaker]
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No need to bother your sweet little head over this one, ballbreaker - I think you should just stick to saving us all in the free world from the terror of Islam and let others do the thinking.

Pan:- You are probably talking about RFID (aka Radio Frequency Identification) chips. And Dev Samael Daval would indeed have some interesting info that may interest you.

Any authorized medical practitioner or surgeon can implant an RFID chip in fatty tissue. It is no bigger than a grain of rice. This chipping procedure lasts just a few minutes and involves the use of only a local anesthetic followed by insertion of the RFID chip. Once it's inserted under your skin, not even you can tell whether you have an RFID chip implanted there. This chip is dormant most of the time and wakes up only when you pass your skin over an external proprietary scanner. When you do this, a small amount of radio frequency energy passes through the skin energizing the chip. The chip then emits a radio frequency signal containing a verification number. This number is then deciphered by the scanner and transmitted to a data storage site.

In 2006, the Sacramento Bee ran a jolly story on it, where else but in its lifestyle section!

Radio frequency identification keeps tabs on goods, services, pets - even people

Feel like you're being followed? Maybe it's a tracking tag on your jeans or one implanted in a credit card.
The tags are called radio frequency identification or RFIDs, and every day they are becoming more and more a part of our lifestyle.

These Orwellian microchips, as minute as a grain of sand, identify and track products and even lost children at theme parks. They're being implanted in humans to alert hospitals about medical conditions.


RFIDs communicate by radio frequency with a "reader," sending information to the database for processing. The tags can be so tiny, you may never know they are there.

Retailers claim RFIDs are essential: alerting them when they're low on lipstick, air filters, sodas and other inventory without having to send someone to check in person. And the chips can help spot a thief taking a product out of the store. If a store sells three of its 10 pairs of Nike shoes, yet the RFID system shows only two pairs in stock, the store is instantly alerted of possible theft.

Consumer privacy advocates regard RFIDs as nothing more than spyware, an invasion of privacy, to track people and their habits.

Levi Strauss & Co., at the request of two franchise stores in Mexico, last year tested RFID tags on its Levi's and Dockers. Later, Levi conducted a similar test for a U.S. store. When the tests recently were reported, opponents of RFID cried spyware.

"We were stunned," says Katherine Albrecht, founder of Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering. "Clothing is the place where consumers most understand the potential for tracking people. ... We know the clothing industry wants to move toward embedded tags."

Levi says the RFID tags helped manage inventory, weren't embedded and were easily removable.

"These are little paper tags that you tear off and throw away," says Jeffery Beckman, spokesman for Levi Strauss. "Usually it's torn off at the store."

Embedded tags aren't so obvious. Hitachi Europe recently developed the world's tiniest RFID integrated circuit, small enough to be placed in a piece of paper. Some RFID chips are made to be imbedded in livestock, in pets and most recently in humans for a variety of reasons.

But use on products has raised the most controversy and claims of eavesdropping on consumers. RFID prices have dropped, and tagging has become practical for businesses. In-Stat, a high-tech research firm, reports more than 1 billion RFID chips were made last year and predicts that by 2010 the number will increase to 33 billion.

Imaginative uses of RFID technology surface daily. A new fitness club wristband from Casio will communicate with gym equipment and display a personalized workout and health data.

At Simon Fraser University, female researchers have developed a purse that reminds the owner of important items not placed inside - sunglasses, wallet, keys and anything deemed indispensable. Each item is RFID-tagged, and the purse lights up with an icon of the forgotten necessity.

Just last week, American Express announced Arby's has joined its national fast-food partners in accepting RFID credit card payment. The RFID credit cards are simply held up next to a "reader" near the register. In mere seconds, you're bearing down on a roast beef sandwich.

Keyless entry
Perhaps you carry a fob and not a car key. The fob automatically turns on the dome light and the door unlocks when you approach the car. A dash button starts the vehicle or maybe you have remote starting, too. The technology that allows this hands-free, keyless stuff is RFID.
In England, RFID tags have been embedded in license plates, making it possible to instantly track a stolen vehicle.


Library books
Old, musty tomes with RFID chips? El Dorado Hills' new library uses RFID tags for quicker check-in and checkout - minus a librarian. The sensor directs check-out and patrons receive a receipt listing the books and return dates.
More college and community libraries are tagging books with RFID, which supposedly frees up time for librarians to help the public.

There's no relief, however, for overdue book fines.


Body implants
Amal Graafstra, who abhors keys, had himself "chipped." RFID chips were implanted in his left and right hands so he could control his car door, front door and log onto his computer by using his hands. His girlfriend, seeking access to his apartment and car, had herself chipped, too.
Graafstra, who lives in Bellingham, Wash., has written a book about home uses of RFID titled, "RFID Toys."

Slightly larger than a grain of rice, RFID chips from VeriChip of Florida are manufactured for implanting in humans. It also makes implant chips for pet identification. The Food and Drug Administration approved human implants two years ago.

Used with a "reader" or scanner, the chips can reveal a person's medical information, a lifesaving benefit for some. They can also be used for high-security clearances. Hoping to improve body-identification procedures, a forensic odontologist has even implanted an RFID chip in a human tooth.


Luggage
You fly to Barcelona but your bags touch down in Beijing. Last year, 30 million bags came up missing. Swiss-based consulting firm SITA has a recommendation to improve those pathetic numbers - an RFID luggage-tracking system.
The airline industry has mainly relied on a bar-code system, but more airports are expected eventually to convert to RFID. SITA claims radio frequency checks can be made more often, bags can be scanned faster and lost luggage found in a more timely fashion.


Cookware
If you burn water, there's hope. Vita Craft Corp. of Shawnee, Kan., has introduced Robotic Cookware. An RFID chip in the pan handle "talks" to the "smart" cooking surface and recipe cards. Basically, the cook combines ingredients in the pan and waits for dinner.
"It cooks to perfection, no burning, no scorching," says Vita Craft spokeswoman Angelea Busby.

Already being peddled in Japan for $2,100, the system (three pots, cooking surface and 24 recipe cards) will soon be available in the United States. Bon appétit.


Tires
Smart tires are being made that can communicate with a car's operating system and warn drivers of low tire pressure. They also can sense road conditions. The RFID tags are embedded in the sidewalls.
All this information will help companies like Michelin and Goodyear evaluate tire performance and track inventory.

The tags also store information about the tires and the vehicle.


Wristbands, badges and shoelaces
Less intrusive and more colorful than surgical implants, chips in wristbands, badges and even shoelaces are being used to track athletes in marathons and triathlons, lost children in amusement parks, as well as relay medical information from patient to hospital staff.
Brittan Elementary School in Sutter, just west of Yuba City, conducted a short-lived experiment with RFID badges last year. Students wore the badges which recorded their attendance. Some parents and civil liberty groups protested and the experiment was discontinued.


Prescription drugs
Your pill bottle may be RFID tagged, especially if it's Viagra. Six months ago, Pfizer began tagging Viagra to help detect counterfeit pills. "Viagra" is a favorite of online scammers.
Once tagged, pharmacists can scan bottles for authenticity before selling to customers.

Another drug, pain-relieving Oxycontin, has been tracked via RFID because it can be addictive and addicts have unlawfully tried to obtain prescriptions from multiple doctors.

The FDA is encouraging the widespread use of radio frequency identification tags on prescription drugs by next year.


Gaming chips
A full house still beats a straight, but the chips sure have changed. Casinos now can track your bets with RFID-embedded tags in gaming chips.
The chips boost odds that the casino will catch cheats at the tables and those who might be inclined to try cashing in bogus chips. Using hand-held sensors, casinos also can get instant chip counts.

Even when the chips are down, casinos know where to find them.


Credit cards
The no-contact credit card transaction has arrived. Wave the credit card near an RFID reader and the Big Mac is yours. No swiping, no signing.
American Express Blue Card with ExpressPay was first introduced last June. The RFID card is 63 percent faster than cash and 53 percent faster than a traditional credit card, according to American Express research. Elapsed transaction time for the Blue Card averages 12.7 seconds.

The Chase Blink was christened because the light on the sensor blinks when the transaction is recorded. According to Chase, there were 6 million card-carrying blinkers in the United States at the start of the year.

For now, the magnetic strips will remain affixed to these cards to accommodate the old-school style of credit transaction.



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#6926 - 04/01/08 12:55 AM Re: One World [Re: School Bully]
Pan420 Offline
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wow thank you for all that. You really shined some light on the subject. So where do you stand on the whole matter of getting the implant?
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#6939 - 04/01/08 08:50 AM Re: One World [Re: Pan420]
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Well, the technology exists and as that article makes clear, whether they know it or not, it is already being tested on the public.

Although I have no doubt that people like ballbreaker would vote in a nanosecond for all ragheads entering North America to be chipped as a precaution, this sort of stuff can only work if its voluntary rather than enforced, with some exceptions like say, sex offenders, etc.

What if your boss asked you to have a chip implanted in your arm? What could you do? It could easily become company policy so company staff could share work stations, company vehicles or computers with keyless, passwordless abandon. Workers already submit to urine tests. So such 'voluntary' actions would determine a person's ability to get a job, earn a living; the employee could not view the implantation as something he or she could realistically refuse.

The logical conclusion to all this is that eventually people will have wireless networks in their heads enabling direct mind-to-mind and mind-to-machine communications - a system that blends human nerves with electronic networks.

When cybernetics technology becomes available, probably in about 10 years, it will be possible to surgically implant a radio chip in the brain. Among others things this would enable a chipped user to switch a light or TV set on and off simply by thought -
Hey presto! Instant magic!
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#6946 - 04/01/08 11:56 AM Re: One World [Re: School Bully]
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The truth is easier than fear. Truth is older. Peace...
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#6949 - 04/01/08 12:39 PM Re: One World [Re: 373]
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 Originally Posted By: 373
The truth is easier than fear. Truth is older. Peace...


Care to elaborate? Or was this just a pointless one-liner? I guess the Rules and Guidelines was just too long for you to read through to the end.
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#6963 - 04/01/08 07:32 PM Re: One World [Re: Nemesis]
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Well there seems to be some good points to having the chips implanted. But to that effect who controls the final outcome? Who decides how th regulate their usage? Those are the questions that bother me. But more than likely I would get chipped to be part of the brave new world.
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#6970 - 04/01/08 08:48 PM Re: One World [Re: Pan420]
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They are very good questions. Finding out about this technology is easier than discovering to what ultimate end.

That article is just a PR job designed to overcome the 'ewwwww' factor as well as to assuage concerns regarding civil liberties and ethics.

Skin implants are reversible but I doubt brain implants would be.

Your concerns are valid. Considering America has a president who led his country to war on a lie of WMD, who views it as a divine mission to bring Armageddon to the ME, and who dances like a puppet on a string to the Israeli lobby, the question is: who can afford to be asleep at the wheel?
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#6990 - 04/01/08 11:03 PM Re: One World [Re: School Bully]
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America seems like the best candidate to. President Bush and his coronies push alot of fears into the people of the country. It, to me seems alot like brainwashing. Instill the fears and the masses will run to the idea of comfort. But the comfort comes at a price. You must obey or you will be shut down. And who decides what goes on. The men that run the country, the same ones that put that fear into its own citizens. Sickening to say the least.
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#7041 - 04/02/08 08:45 AM Re: One World [Re: Pan420]
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What risks come to mind is now the criminals have readers that can duplicate the info in the normal magnetic bank cards, so when will they have the necessary tech to read the chips without the victim even noticing.
Otherwise (without the tracking possibility) the chip has a lot merit, how cool is it to open doors and computer by just standing near by \:\) I sure would love to get one. One step closer to becoming a cyborg.

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#7044 - 04/02/08 09:06 AM Re: One World [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
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Society builds itself on the peoples fear.It's oppression at it's finest.The people have to move like snakes to survive.This world is full of fraud,warlords and violence.I do not think anything is changing the way of the world execpt the tecknology,use for good or bad either way it is gonna change the way we buy,sell,or trade live with it die with it......
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#7045 - 04/02/08 09:23 AM Re: One World [Re: Isaak w shipley]
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Hi Isaak. Your doing so much better writing and making sense. Good job. Don't forget to put spaces after your punctuation thoe.
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#7066 - 04/02/08 06:11 PM Re: One World [Re: LUCIFERIFIC]
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Well every new technological advance is always flawed. There is a point when a society has to think about the good outwieghing the bad. And in that sense we as people try to see the good benifiets at every angle. And right now we don't have all the angles and we can't realy decide if it is a good idea. But ya it will be easy to duplicate since everything is.
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