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#27247 - 07/20/09 12:55 AM Re: Stereotyping Yourself [Re: ceruleansteel]
hellbent666
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Too bad I can't use one liners here \:\( sounds like I touched a nerve with you ceruleansteel. Your pitiful existence depends on materialism. While I realize that without money I wouldn't be able to live the way I do now is not the issue. The issue is not leeching off of those more productive than I, this is why I work as well as there being some things I enjoy doing like improving my body and cooking.

It's easy for a woman to say, "Oh, you have a worthless existence because you're not money hungry like I am." Do you want a gold star? Do you want a cookie? Do you want a pat on the back for being so narrow minded and quick to making assumptions? I HATE money because it leads to single-mindedness like in this instance. You have absolutely no clue how much life you're missing out on my dear. And you are the reason personified why I hate women.

No, I am not a LHP'er. I am a Jeramiahist. I used to be a Satanist and used to like having intelligent conversations with like minded or even semi like minded people. However, you are not the person I seek. You are a bump in the road. The person I seek has a deeper appreciation for life, which is a main premise of Satanism, so don't try preaching to me ;\)

Nice try though...

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#27249 - 07/20/09 02:25 AM Re: Stereotyping Yourself [Re: ]
Jake999 Offline
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Registered: 11/02/08
Posts: 2230
 Originally Posted By: hellbent666
The person I seek has a deeper appreciation for life, which is a main premise of Satanism, so don't try preaching to me ;\)

Nice try though...


Wouldn't want anyone to interfere in your time preaching to others. Reading your posts is becoming a lot like sitting in a Southern Baptist church and listening to some one drone on and on about how their life is soooooooo much better since they found Jesus and how your life is sooooooo pathetic. But you know, it would be a lot more convincing if there was some reason to believe what he hell you're selling is in fact something more than your personal pipe dreams.

There's not a damned thing wrong with materialism. Believe me. I've been so poor I've eaten cat food, and flush enough to travel first class and tip twenties. There's absolutely nothing wrong with having things. I have a lot of things. Earned every goddamn one of them with the sweat of my brow and the force of will to say I WILL make it happen. Most often, those who rail against materialistic things simply have nothing and decide to turn that into a personal virtue.

There's not a damned thing wrong in eating what you want and enjoying life like a banquet. If I feel like eating a bag of Doritos, well... I paid for the bag of Doritos, I paid for the house in which I live and the life that I affect is well... mine. And yeah, I have a beer gut. So what? I'm 60 years old this year and can still wade into my enemies physically and mentally. I have a right hook that can break a jaw and a lawyer who can break down walls.

So yeah, I have a few extra pounds. And it's done me no harm. I grew up as a skinny kid who was picked on. Now, only a fool would try. And has it hurt me with women? I don't think so. I've been married to one for 40 years, and have a "secondary mate" that's been with me as well for 20. Both are brilliant women with business acumen and skills that make men sweat. Along the way, yeah, I've had my share of other women as well, probably as many (conservatively) as 100.

This isn't to brag. I learned a long time ago that doing and achieving is much more satisfying than wasting my time yakking about it. But I've been hearing self-appointed gurus tell me all my life just where I've been going wrong in life. And I keep wondering, why in the hell THEIR life is so much better. If it satisfies them, great. It would bore me to fucking tears. And I really don't care if my life offends them. Unless it takes $$$ out of my wallet, or keeps me from the things I want, they're like every other clod that preaches. They're looking for someone to validate them.

When you forget that and learn to validate yourself, life becomes a thing to live, rather than a crusade to fight to convert others to your beliefs. You aren't a Left Hand Pather... ok. You aren't a Satanist... who cares? You are a Jeramiahist... quaint.

But you've definitely been preaching.
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#27252 - 07/20/09 03:23 AM Re: Stereotyping Yourself [Re: Jake999]
hellbent666
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How is pointing out common sense preaching? Did everyone forget the main reason for internet forums? The #1 reason for internet forums is to give an opinion. It really doesn't matter if said opinion is shared or not, that hasn't stopped anyone on here now has it? Is the internet forum with supposed intelligent people such as satanists now a pissing contest? I must be confused, but I honestly doubt I am because I've been doing the forum thing for years now.

What possesses someone to disregard FACTS is beyond me. Nothing I've stated health-wise has been dis-proven by any medical expert. Don't believe me? Talk to ANY person in the medical industry they'll tell you the same thing! Are you fucking kidding me? YES!!!! I must be dreaming because I NEVER thought people would debate me over medical facts. Wow, you have some serious issues. Not opinions FACTS! Deal with it!

I'm NOT legislating my morality on anyone. I stated my opinion and got into a weird one sided debate over things pretty much anyone can plainly observe. You like smoking?! Well great for you! Hope you enjoy emphysema! You like getting drunk? Great for you! Hope you enjoy having a piss poor metabolism! You like drugs? Well great for you! Most drugs besides pot are felonies! Enjoy your prison sentence! How are these in any way debatable?

As for the materialism thing. This is gonna be tough for any of you that are "In the Shit", so to speak, to understand because it takes life NOT going your way for you to get it. Am I having a debate with some silver spoon fed mother fucker? If so, you will probably never understand what I'm talking about or you have already forgotten what it was like to be poor. And who gives a flying fuck if your poor? Oh yeah! Money hungry people with one track minds! That's right! It's all coming back to me now.

If you want to disregard everything I say out of some weird defense mechanism, that is your prerogative. Only you will be held accountable for doing so. I bid you good luck in extracting anything of meaning from such a monetary existence. In fact people like me would call your interests Nominal. Meaningless. The grande scheme of things is what we're looking at, not the temporary...

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#27253 - 07/20/09 03:47 AM Re: Stereotyping Yourself [Re: ]
Jake999 Offline
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 Originally Posted By: hellbent666
I bid you good luck in extracting anything of meaning from such a monetary existence. In fact people like me would call your interests Nominal. Meaningless. The grande scheme of things is what we're looking at, not the temporary...


You make the mistake of thinking that anyone really even cares what you think. I certainly don't. But I would never condemn your way of living, because it works (apparently) for YOU... such that it is.

I'll suffer through my terrible life. Now while you're busting your ass to keep a roof over your head and try to pay for an internet connection, I'll be at the casino playing blackjack.
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#27254 - 07/20/09 03:54 AM Re: Stereotyping Yourself [Re: Jake999]
Diavolo Offline
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God told Jeremiah, "You will go to them; but for their part, they will not listen to you".


Occasionally god is right.

D.

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#27255 - 07/20/09 03:59 AM Re: Stereotyping Yourself [Re: Diavolo]
hellbent666
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Well I guess we've already deduced that self preservation is not any of your highest laws.
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#27256 - 07/20/09 04:07 AM Re: Stereotyping Yourself [Re: ]
Diavolo Offline
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I wonder if you're replying to me or to Jake. Either way, I find that incredibly funny to hear from a post-teen, considering the fact that I'm 43 and Jake even slightly older. We seem both to be doing pretty well at self-preservation at the moment. So your powers of deduction seem to be as great as your opportunities at materialism.

If I'm not mistaking, you are a former jailbird and while it does wonders for constipation, I assume rightfully it doesn't really increase your opportunities at a level of societal self-improvement. Isn't it darn handy to be anti-materialistic if the highest you can manage is baking burgers at McD?

D.

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#27259 - 07/20/09 11:12 AM Re: Stereotyping Yourself [Re: ]
Dimitri Offline
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Registered: 07/13/08
Posts: 3138
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How is pointing out common sense preaching? Did everyone forget the main reason for internet forums? The #1 reason for internet forums is to give an opinion. It really doesn't matter if said opinion is shared or not, that hasn't stopped anyone on here now has it? Is the internet forum with supposed intelligent people such as satanists now a pissing contest? I must be confused, but I honestly doubt I am because I've been doing the forum thing for years now.

1) Internet forums can indeed be used to give different opinions, but most wisely be backed-up with common-sense, official bulletins, essays, books and reports from authorized persons and not from the first idiot who wants to sound interesting and proclaims his bullshit to the like-minded idiots without a brain. And you lack the latter part, i.e. the decent backup.
2) you are preaching at the moment, back-off a bit and reread your texts later on. You'll see clearly your pushing and preaching behavior. You might be on the Internet now, but you are currently residing in xear's lair. And he likes decent behavior...

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What possesses someone to disregard FACTS is beyond me. Nothing I've stated health-wise has been dis-proven by any medical expert. Don't believe me? Talk to ANY person in the medical industry they'll tell you the same thing! Are you fucking kidding me? YES!!!! I must be dreaming because I NEVER thought people would debate me over medical facts. Wow, you have some serious issues. Not opinions FACTS! Deal with it!

Facts are seldom disregarded, only the interpretation and subjective view from the person can. And restate your fact if you made one, I happen to have quite a knowledge when it comes to science, biology and related subjects..

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I'm NOT legislating my morality on anyone. I stated my opinion and got into a weird one sided debate over things pretty much anyone can plainly observe.

When opinions are given, when statements are made, they are free to be criticized. If you don't like it, it is advised to keep the mouth shut.

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As for the materialism thing. This is gonna be tough for any of you that are "In the Shit", so to speak, to understand because it takes life NOT going your way for you to get it. Am I having a debate with some silver spoon fed mother fucker? If so, you will probably never understand what I'm talking about or you have already forgotten what it was like to be poor.

As far as I have followed the discussion: you think materialism is bad? Nice one, could you please deposit all your cash on next bank account: 1234-567-8910... I might need some.
Or does greed prevent you because you might lose the shelter you currently have?
Guess you forgot that the house you live in has come to existence by having a materialistic mind...
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#27260 - 07/20/09 01:15 PM Re: Stereotyping Yourself [Re: ]
6Satan6Archist6 Offline
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Registered: 10/16/08
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"The things you own, own you." I am not sure who first said that, but I do at that it can be true at times. My mom has been playing Final Fantasy online everyday, sometimes all day, for going on three years now. In a sense that game owns her, but, I feel she has earned it after raising two kids on her own, working jobs that she hated just so she could, and going back to college.

People who work their asses off for the things they have deserve those things. You are just pissy because you do not have what others have. So you try to take the "moral highground" and outwardly reject materialism like you are some sort of monk.

If you are really anti-materialistic, then what are you doing with a computer? Hell, what are you doing with any of your possessions? Why don't you just sell everything you have, then give the money away, and go sleep in the woods for the rest of your life?

Somehow I doubt you would be willing to give up your material possessions and step out of your comfort zone like that. I also doubt that if some rich person were to show up at your house today and offer you a Ferrari with no strings attached; that you would turn the offer down even though it might be construed by some as "leeching off someone who is doing better in life than you".

I use to be anti-materialistic. Thinking that I didn't need money or possessions to be happy. In some ways I still feel that way a little bit. I mean, I don't feel like my life is a failure because I don't have a 30' yacht or even a 30" tv, but it sure is nice to have money so I can pay my rent, eat and shower my girlfriend in all the nice things I can even though she doesn't ask for them.

I spent a few months homeless on the streets of Hollywood, Venice Beach, Santa Monica etc. and riding freight trains around California and Oregon. During my time I proved that I could exist without a stable job (day labor was a must as panhandling was only a last resort), a house, food everyday, a stereo, a cellphone and all the other comforts and amenities that I know enjoy. Even though I could live without things didn't mean that I wanted to and it sure as hell doesn't mean I was happier then than I am now.

You are anti-materialistic? Ok, I don't believe it for one second, but ok. Let us assume for a second that you really are. Good for you. What do you want; a medal, a cookie, a pat on the back and an atta boy? Just because you CLAIM to hold that position doesn't mean everyone else has to as well. So go ahead and cling to your false sense of superiority and I will listen to music that comes from the stereo that my ipod is hooked up to while I bone my girlfriend and record it on my digital movie camera.
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#27262 - 07/20/09 03:04 PM Re: Stereotyping Yourself [Re: ]
ceruleansteel Offline
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Registered: 10/15/07
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Too bad I can't use one liners here sounds like I touched a nerve with you ceruleansteel. Your pitiful existence depends on materialism


Actually, I am fairly minimalist, which pretty much everyone here knows already. I don't even WANT a television, have a 17 year old sedan, etc etc. You are the one who keeps clinging to "stereotypes = manipulation = money". I've said twice now that stereotyping has several very valid applications, but you don't seem to be paying attention.

I didn't say your existance was worthless because you (claim you are) not money hungry. I clearly stated that your existance was worthless because you are so stupid as to think that you can get anywhere in life without understanding the necessity and usefulness of stereotyping. You think you offended me just because I insulted you? Naw. I insult everyone who has an IQ less than 120.

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It's easy for a woman to say, "Oh, you have a worthless existence because you're not money hungry like I am." Do you want a gold star? Do you want a cookie? Do you want a pat on the back for being so narrow minded and quick to making assumptions? I HATE money because it leads to single-mindedness like in this instance. You have absolutely no clue how much life you're missing out on my dear. And you are the reason personified why I hate women.


HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

Did you just stereotype me?

Look, pussyface, I fucking HATE shopping. I'm a survivalist and my six year old could last longer in any terrain with just a steak knife and a piece of string than you could with provisions. I am wearing a pair of three year old jeans and the only reason this shirt is from 2009 is because my other one like it finally wore the hell out. I can press almost 800 pounds with my legs. I prefer classical music. I drink 101-proof bourbon, often straight out of the bottle (but never when the kids are home). I grow roughly half the food I eat. And I'm currently cruising through a BA with A's in classes that men are flunking.

Didn't know me as well as you thought you did, did you? Maybe if you were interested in stereotyping and applying what can be learned from it, you would know that any female HERE, (and especially one who has earned enough respect to be blue or better), is quite different from the average brainless twats that crowd our planet.

But you prefer to be the lone wolf and "be yourself" even if it doesn't benefit you, right? Well you have shown quite a few times now how severely debilitating that can be.

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However, you are not the person I seek.


Oh sweet jesus. I'm so fucking sad I want to cry.


Edited by ceruleansteel (07/20/09 03:22 PM)
Edit Reason: heading off another round of stupidity at the pass

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#27264 - 07/20/09 03:11 PM Re: Stereotyping Yourself [Re: Jake999]
ceruleansteel Offline
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Registered: 10/15/07
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I'll be at the casino playing blackjack.


Jake, I fuckin' LOVE blackjack. I'll see ya there (oh damn, I guess that makes me an evil materialist!)

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#27265 - 07/20/09 03:14 PM Re: Stereotyping Yourself [Re: ceruleansteel]
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Let's not forget your new shoe avatar, Toni...that's sooooo materialistic! What kind are they anyway? I want a pair!
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#27269 - 07/20/09 05:27 PM Re: Stereotyping Yourself [Re: Nemesis]
ceruleansteel Offline
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They're a Christian Louboutin tortishell...very sexy and they match my sunglasses exactly! You can get them at Saks.

Edited by ceruleansteel (07/20/09 05:28 PM)

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#37418 - 04/06/10 04:45 AM Re: Stereotyping Yourself [Re: Dimitri]
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I can't even stereotype myself, since I am a new stereotype all by itself.

I guess my nationality' being Japanese, guess I am good at math? lol

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#37818 - 04/18/10 08:03 PM Re: Stereotyping Yourself [Re: Dimitri]
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I have posted about stereotypes on this forum as well.

A person can choose to intentionally use the way they are ( an example of this being Luciferic's reference to having big tits and blonde hair) to get a specific reaction. If this is the case then certainly knowing your stereotype and choosing it wisely, for that matter, can help someone get what they want.

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