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#99117 - 04/27/15 01:45 PM Re: Fetishes [Re: SIN3]
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Considering a true-fetish being akin to a psychosis would be fairly accurate. They're called paraphilias, and the "sufferers" are called paraphiles, but I'm half-certain you already know that. A short list would look like this:

Abasiophilia People with impaired mobility
Acrotomophilia People with amputations
Agalmatophilia Statues, mannequins and immobility
Algolagnia Pain, particularly involving an erogenous zone; differs from masochism as there is a biologically different interpretation of the sensation rather than a subjective interpretation
Andromimetophilia Trans men
Anililagnia Attraction by young men to older women
Anthropophagolagnia Raping and then cannibalizing another person.
Anthropophagy Ingesting human flesh
Apotemnophilia Being an amputee
Asphyxiophilia Being asphyxiated or strangled
Attraction to disability People with one or more physical disabilities.
Autagonistophilia Being on stage or on camera
Autassassinophilia Being in life-threatening situations
Autoandrophilia A biological female imagining herself as a male
Autoerotic asphyxiation Self-induced asphyxiation, sometimes to the point of near unconsciousness
Autogynephilia A biological male imagining himself as a female
Auto-haemofetishism Bleeding oneself (does not involve ingestion of blood). Type of autovampirism.
Autonepiophilia The image of one's self in the form of an infant.
Autopedophilia The image of one's self in the form of a child.
Autoplushophilia The image of one's self in the form of a plush or anthropomorphized animal.
Autovampirism The image of one's self in the form of a vampire. Involves ingesting or seeing one's own blood.
Autozoophilia The image of one's self in the form of an animal or anthropomorphized animal.
Biastophilia Rape of an unconsenting person; see also consensual rape fantasy
Chremastistophilia Being robbed or held up
Chronophilia Partners of a widely differing chronological age
Coprophilia Feces; also known as scat, scatophilia or fecophilia
Dacryphilia Tears or crying
Diaper fetishism Diapers; considerable overlap with paraphilic infantilism
Dendrophilia Trees
Emetophilia Vomit
Erotic asphyxiation Asphyxia of oneself or others
Erotophonophilia Murder, often of strangers (also known as dacnolagnomania).
Exhibitionism Exposing one's genitals to unsuspecting and nonconsenting others
Feederism Eating, feeding, and weight gain.
Formicophilia Being crawled on by bugs
Forniphilia Turning a human being into a piece of furniture
Frotteurism Rubbing against a non-consenting person
Gerontophilia Elderly people
Gynandromorphophilia Transsexual or transgender women
Gynemimetophilia Transsexual or transgender women
Hematolagnia Drinking or looking at blood
Heterophilia Idealization of heterosexuality and/or people who are "straight-acting," especially by non-heterosexual people.
Homeovestism Wearing clothing emblematic of one's own sex
Hoplophilia Firearms, guns
Hybristophilia Criminals, particularly for cruel or outrageous crimes
Infantophilia Pedophilia with a focus on children five years old or younger, a recently suggested term that is not in general use
Kleptophilia Stealing; also known as kleptolagnia
Klismaphilia Enemas, either giving or having
Lactophilia Breast milk
Liquidophilia Immersing genitals in liquids
Macrophilia Giants, giantesses.
Maschalagnia Armpits
Masochism Suffering; being beaten, bound or otherwise humiliated
Mechanophilia Cars or other machines; also "mechaphilia."
Melolagnia Music
Menophilia Menstruation
Metrophilia Poetry
Microphilia Tiny beings.
Morphophilia Particular body shapes or sizes
Mucophilia Mucus
Mysophilia Dirtiness, soiled or decaying things
Narratophilia Obscene words
Nasophilia Noses
Necrophilia Corpses
Objectophilia Specific inanimate objects
Oculolinctus Licking the eyeballs
Oculophilia Eyes and activities directly relating to and/or involving the eyes. Voyeurism does not meet classification for this term.
Olfactophilia Smells
Paraphilic infantilism Dressing or being treated like a baby, also known as autonepiophilia or "adult baby syndrome"; considerable overlap with diaper fetishism
Partialism Specific, non-genital body parts
Pedophilia Prepubescent children, also spelled paedophilia; often confused with hebephilia, ephebophilia, and pederasty
Peodeiktophilia Exposing one's penis
Pedovestism Dressing like a child
Podophilia Feet
Pictophilia Pornography or erotic art, particularly pictures
Piquerism Piercing the flesh of another person, most commonly by stabbing or cutting the body with sharp objects
Plushophilia Stuffed toy animals (Plushies).
Pygophilia Buttocks
Pyrophilia Fire
Raptophilia Committing rape, possibly consensual rape fantasy
Sadism Inflicting pain on others
Salirophilia Soiling or dirtying others
Sexual fetishism Nonliving objects
Somnophilia Sleeping or unconscious people
Sophophilia Learning
Sthenolagnia Muscles and displays of strength
Stigmatophilia Body piercings and tattoos
Symphorophilia Witnessing or staging disasters such as car accidents
Telephone scatologia Obscene phone calls, particularly to strangers; also known as telephonicophilia and scatophilia
Teratophilia Deformed or monstrous people
Toucherism Touching an unsuspecting, non-consenting person with the hand
Toxophilia Archery
Transvestic fetishism Wearing clothes associated with the opposite sex; also known as transvestism
Transvestophilia A transvestite sexual partner
Trichophilia Hair
Troilism Cuckoldism, watching one's partner have sex with someone else, possibly without the third party's knowledge
Urolagnia Urination, particularly in public, on others, and/or being urinated on. Also referred to as "water sports"
Vampirism Blood
Vorarephilia The idea of one person or creature eating or being eaten by another; usually swallowed whole, in one piece
Voyeurism Watching others while naked or having sex, generally without their knowledge; also known as scopophilia or scoptophilia
Zoophilia Animals
Zoosadism Inflicting pain on or seeing animals in pain

Yes, this was a Wikipedia copy, and paste job. I don't actually know all of this shit by heart. lol -Matty \:\)


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#99170 - 04/28/15 07:27 PM Re: Fetishes [Re: MReynolds]
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 Originally Posted By: MReynolds
Yes, this was a Wikipedia copy, and paste job. I don't actually know all of this shit by heart. lol -Matty \:\)

A hyperlink would have sufficed.

 Originally Posted By: SIN3
Personally, I'd consider a true-fetish akin to a psychosis. If you need certain elements in place to get aroused, there's something in your pathology that needs to be addressed.

Kinks? It's only kinky the first time. After that it's just pleasure derived from specific acts or visual aesthetic.

I'm not quite grasping what test you're using to distinguish a "true fetish" from a "kink."
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#99173 - 04/28/15 10:00 PM Re: Fetishes [Re: XiaoGui17]
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Everybody's weird, in the bedroom or out of it. Or both. Most of it just isn't for me, but I'm glad someone is doing it. I endorse and celebrate all manner of depravity.
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#99183 - 04/29/15 10:02 AM Re: Fetishes [Re: XiaoGui17]
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 Quote:

I'm not quite grasping what test you're using to distinguish a "true fetish" from a "kink."


Test? You need a test? If your partner *requires* particular elements in place, every time, to get aroused, to get off then it's a psychosis.

Would you consider sex with the lights on Kinky? Was it kinky to you at one time then became pretty vanilla and passe? Can't you still derive pleasure from sex with the lights on and it not be particularly Kinky?

Try the Litmus Test if you need one.


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#99193 - 04/29/15 02:02 PM Re: Fetishes [Re: SIN3]
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 Originally Posted By: MG
Everybody's weird, in the bedroom or out of it. Or both.
Often in down-right unfathomable ways. It has been ages since I've actually been surprised by anything any more (except maybe the occasional stinky pinky - "hey!! get out of there! *weirdO*:|")

 Originally Posted By: S3
Would you consider sex with the lights on Kinky?
Standard operating procedure. Actually, lights-off isn't too bad either – the only down side being that if you're not already familiar the person, things sometimes have a tendency to end-up in places they ought not be.

Fetish-wise, I cannot relate to what it must be to have one. No doubt such peeps are out there, but for the most-part, one could say that I basically just have “preferences” to certain physical characteristics. Dark hair, sorta dark skin, brown eyes, must be shorter than me – which probably comes down to the whole erotic crystallization inertia – thing.

Kink, on the other-hand, sure why not? Experimentation can be fun. Role-play, dress-up, oils, lotions, toys, water works – all fun by me. Entirely optional. Bondage? Seems fun enough – not my cup of tea. Whipping, or anything pain-related, however, is totally out of bounds. Ice cubes too tried it. 'does not like.

Anything resembling “getting away with it” - public places, cemeteries, parks, play-scapes, driving, where close relatives are in the next room, hand-jobs on an air-plane (never the bathroom, too cramped and repugnant), etc – I am 100% into that sorta thing. I suppose this qualifies as kink...


Edited by antikarmatomic (04/29/15 02:26 PM)
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#99199 - 04/29/15 05:30 PM Re: Fetishes [Re: SIN3]
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 Originally Posted By: SIN3
Test? You need a test? If your partner *requires* particular elements in place, every time, to get aroused, to get off then it's a psychosis.

My boyfriend requires the element of penile stimulation to be in place every time to get off. Psychosis? I mean, there are some men teenage boys who can jizz their pants just thinking about it.

But let's make it slightly less absurd. If a man requires the cupping of his balls in order to get off, is that a psychosis? Or just someone who's grown accustomed to a particular routine?

There has never been a point in my life when having the lights on seemed "kinky" to me. It just makes sense in terms of visual stimulation. Also, given how many times I've konked heads with a sexual partner, I wouldn't want to compound my clumsiness by turning the lights off.
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#99210 - 04/30/15 09:58 AM Re: Fetishes [Re: XiaoGui17]
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 Originally Posted By: XiaoGui17

But let's make it slightly less absurd.


Nice try but I wasn't referring to standard stimulation and you know it. Would stroking a cock be considered a Fetish?

Say before any form of intimacy transpires that you have to kick him in the balls 22 times. 22 not 2 or 10. Maybe the 22 correlates to the number of times he was smacked in the face as a child as his cock and balls were targeted in a form of humiliation tactic. Maybe he was molested as a child and the 22 signifies the day on the calendar that he recalls. This later develops into a fetish that requires that you kick him in the balls 22 times or he doesn't even consider the sex act something he can do. It mortifies him without the Fetish.

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#99211 - 04/30/15 10:21 AM Re: Fetishes [Re: SIN3]
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Not having one's kink, and/or fetish in place doesn't necessarily mortify the person(s) involved. These things can be, and often are just sexual enhancements. It's when it borders on paraphilia that it tends to become a "problem". Much like OCD (Obsessive-intrusive thoughts requiring Compulsive ritualistic behaviors in order to bring a sense of order the Disorder. Relief from the anxiety). Damn, I type stupid sentences. \:\( -Matty \:\)

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#99224 - 04/30/15 02:28 PM Re: Fetishes [Re: MReynolds]
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I'm not confused about the enhancement vs the psychosis.


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It's when it borders on paraphilia that it tends to become a "problem".

^Exactly. While I wasn't addressing any particular fetish specifically, I am addressing the underlying behaviors and mental condition underneath that Fetish.
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#99225 - 04/30/15 02:41 PM Re: Fetishes [Re: SIN3]
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I've met some really kinky people, but the overwhelming majority don't need their fetish (though some have a strong preference for it) and are capable of having vanilla sex. I don't think I've ever met anyone that had to have something like 22 kicks to the nads.

But here's an interesting test case: traumatic masturbatory syndrome. That, I have encountered. Some guy jacked off with a death grip so consistently that now he needs his hand to finish. No mouth, no pussy, no ass will do. Just the vice grip of his palm that rivals a blood pressure cuff.

Is being dependent on one's own hand psychosis?
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#99233 - 04/30/15 08:02 PM Re: Fetishes [Re: XiaoGui17]
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Never been a fan of the word psychosis. There's common and less common. That said, being dependent on one's own hand to get him/her off makes me sad...and determined to prove him/her wrong.
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#99245 - 05/01/15 11:29 AM Re: Fetishes [Re: XiaoGui17]
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 Originally Posted By: XiaoGui17
I've met some really kinky people, but the overwhelming majority don't need their fetish (though some have a strong preference for it) and are capable of having vanilla sex.


I wouldn't consider that a true fetish. I think the word is overly applied, so is 'KINK'.


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I don't think I've ever met anyone that had to have something like 22 kicks to the nads.


I've known people like this, hence it's not just reading up on it, I have experiential knowledge and believe you me, these people are whacked out.

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But here's an interesting test case: traumatic masturbatory syndrome. That, I have encountered. Some guy jacked off with a death grip so consistently that now he needs his hand to finish. No mouth, no pussy, no ass will do. Just the vice grip of his palm that rivals a blood pressure cuff.

Is being dependent on one's own hand psychosis?


That is an interesting case, I'd say it qualifies yes.
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#99259 - 05/01/15 02:31 PM Re: Fetishes [Re: Daemon]
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 Originally Posted By: Argosy magazine, June 175
LaVey pauses again and gazes wistfully into space. “I collect things,” he shrugs. “I’ve always collected things. For example,” he goes on, beginning to chuckle again, “there’s a guy at MGM who calls me from time to time. Awhile ago they’d had a tremendous auction - the entire prop and wardrobe department - and afterward he called and said, ‘Give me ten dollars and you can haul off whatever’s left.’ And there, inside the auction room, stood this huge box bursting at the seams with the underwear of MGM’s most famous stars - from Greer Garson to Liz Taylor - with the labels still on them! What a haul; what a fetishist’s field day! It must have weighed 150 pounds, but somehow I carried it upstairs and a full block uphill to my car. Talk about a madman! I keep this collection in plastic bags inside a footlocker!”

I saw what was apparently part of that collection, so evidently this was not a tall-tale.

Probably the most secret room at 6114 California Street was originally called the Blue Room. It was a small room behind a locked door at the rear of the Den of Iniquity. It was painted Electric Blue, and was full of mirrors of all shapes and sizes to reflect off each other and create a visually-shattering experience right out of R'lyeh. In the middle of it was a low platform, atop which there was an oddly-angled coffin.

As one can probably imagine, the Blue Room was extremely disturbing and disorienting: something out of a Thriller or Outer Limits episode. I expect it had been conceived with the Elektrischen Vorspiele in mind, although it was too small for any kind of group working. The EVs were usually done in the Council Chamber, so-named because that's where we met "ceremonially" as the Council of Nine, e.g. black robes and hoods, voting by one or two fist-impacts on a central coffin, very creepy someone being interviewed. The CC was completely black, with a very minimalist altar (photo in CoS), better for all the mad lab gizmos than the much more opulent Main Riual Chamber upstairs.

Anyway, as recounted in The Church of Satan:

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... By 1974, however, this haven for the Hounds of Tindalos had been radically remodeled. “I’ve created another room,” Anton told Argosy, “the perfect replica of a cheap hotel, even the smells. Cheap booze and urine and stale smoke permeating the wallpaper, the neon sign…”

When I finally saw the remodeled Blue Room during one of my last visits to 6114, I hardly knew what to think.

Here, Anton told me, he would sometimes stay for hours or even days when he felt in need of its atmosphere. That atmosphere was one which radiated nothing but loneliness, despair, and degeneracy. It was the sort of “home” that any one of the Den of Iniquity’s forlorn mannequins might have crawled dejectedly back to after having tried to drown its soul-destroying influence in alcohol for a few hours.

I could only presume that the strain of being the Magus of the Age of Satan, and the High Priest of its Church of Satan, was simply too much for the human being that was Anton Szandor LaVey. At least occasionally he needed to change back into Clark Kent, and in this hideaway he could do it, purging himself of the built-up frustrations of an otherwise Nietzschean existence ...

On a hook behind the door Anton showed me several plastic-bagged & labeled Hollywood actress "unmentionables". Could these have been faked, like his "inscribed" MM photo? Possible, but somehow I don't think so.
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#108638 - 09/13/16 02:37 AM Re: Fetishes [Re: Daemon]
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I have a blood fetish... Just thinking about it makes my mouth water. I was a sexual submissive for many years but when it came to blood I was quite happy to top or bottom. I swear, when a blade passes through flesh I can feel every individual cell compress and pop and it is awesome. I like how it looks when it boils up out of the skin... I like carving pictures into people... So many ways to enjoy blood.

I did a venepuncture course once and freaked out my classmate. All I was doing was feeling her veins but apparently I had a bit of a unusual look on my face. She laughed, but she seriously wouldn't let me touch her after that. Lol. ...You get that. \:\)

I also like to drink it but it has to be directly from the flesh. I don't like cold, dead blood. It has to be fresh and warm with life still swimming in it.

And of course the offshoot to a blood fetish is a knife or blade fetish! And a needle fetish...

I'm also very primal and love a man's scent and get right up in that armpit. So yum! I find my sense as a submissive is very primal too which is why I don't submit in the traditional bdsm sense anymore. Many Doms see submission as she will or she won't like it is a choice, whereas I see it as I either do or I don't. I am either submissive with you or I am not - and everything else is just pretend.

I am one of those weird people that enjoy anime monster porn - big grotesque monsters violating women. So hot! ...And I published supernatural erotica.

If I am correct, I believe fetishes are our way of processing stuff from our past which on some level was strange or traumatic. I grew up in the country and of course we slaughtered our own food, plus we hunted for money. I have seen countless animals have their throats cut and bleed out and then be dismembered. These images probably stuck with me on some level and explain my blood fetish. I had to hold my first son down for multiple needles during his short life, and after he died I started almost fainting with needles... Then this eventually became a subspace thing. When I was a preteen I was sexually abused and I believe that is where my fascination with grotesque oppressive monsters stem from. And the male sweat thing - well I grew up around animals and picked up their behaviours... When humans failed me I drew on this data for survival. Fascinating stuff really - how our minds work.



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#108657 - 09/13/16 05:48 PM Re: Fetishes [Re: ShadowLover]
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 Originally Posted By: ShadowLover
If I am correct, I believe fetishes are our way of processing stuff from our past which on some level was strange or traumatic.


I absolutely disagree.
Everyone professional) who knows human psychology well, those who well understand everything about human personality...those experienced with knowing ways of life/human reality - they all say - that if the person is intelligent and creative - he usually has quite complicated and rich sexual life and pretty sophisticated perception of sex(ual activities)...
(except when a person is "asexual", of course... likeaaaa... "sublimating", or smthn"...).

So why don't we just admit - that desire to explore fetishes is a beautiful part of self-exploration and one's adventurous nature, so to speak.

Does it mean (taking a look at what you assumed in your OP) that if a person is psychologically stable and better than other people in that regard - so
so - he will "PROBABLY have no fetishes and will be very much inclined to missionary position"..? WHAT..??
Naaah...
Its just exactly the opposite! Being talented = (its a fact) = usually positively correlates with different fetishes and rich sexual life...

So let us not give an extra earnings to a psychiatric industry, supporting their dull notions! Im all about it! LOL
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