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#19858 - 02/07/09 09:22 AM Re: Laveyan Satanism or Traditional Satanism [Re: Nemesis]
Gabby Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Nemesis
Gabby, you are the LAST person who should be offering advice to others here. Especially on the topic of 'insanity', where you stated:

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I am just insane! I love every minute of it and I will continue being insane until I die.

Oh yes...you have much sage wisdom to offer....

Mike: C'mon man...do you seriously think oreilly is 69? That's the most passe age to list oneself as...he's probably younger than you. Teenagers are the only ones who still think '69' is witty.



Maybe I'd be the first.
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#19891 - 02/07/09 05:31 PM Re: Laveyan Satanism or Traditional Satanism [Re: Gabby]
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I seriously doubt that. You come on here once a week, stay a couple days to spout some bullshit, then leave. Rinse, repeat. What exactly ARE you doing here? Did you think you'd find some buddies to chat with online? To meet up with people? Which is all well and good, but in case you didn't get the memo, no one here wants to meet you, let alone hold conversations with you. That, and the fact that you get your delicate feelings hurt when someone makes a joke at your expense. What do you think this place is? The Circle Jerk Club? The Recovering Christian-aholics Club? The Respect Me Because I'm Insane Club?

No no, my dear...YOU are the one who needs to mature. Not Mequa (who hurt your feelings in an earlier post). Not Mike, who's right around your age, yet knows better than to expect to be soothed and petted when he makes idiotic, rambling posts.

Go hang out on Yahoo forums and find some eSatanists, or whatever. You obviously have proven that you can't take the heat that is dished out here on a regular basis. Ever heard of Trial by Fire? You failed.
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#19897 - 02/07/09 06:13 PM Re: Laveyan Satanism or Traditional Satanism [Re: Nemesis]
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Not Mike, who's right around your age, yet knows better than to expect to be soothed and petted when he makes idiotic, rambling posts.


Yeah, you tell her Nemesis! Oh wait...

Gabby: Accept the fact that you're posts suck, appologize (to yourself mostly) and try to post with more wisdom in the future. Just some friendly advice.
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#19899 - 02/07/09 06:15 PM Re: Laveyan Satanism or Traditional Satanism [Re: Nemesis]
Gabby Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Nemesis
I seriously doubt that. You come on here once a week, stay a couple days to spout some bullshit, then leave. Rinse, repeat. What exactly ARE you doing here? Did you think you'd find some buddies to chat with online? To meet up with people? Which is all well and good, but in case you didn't get the memo, no one here wants to meet you, let alone hold conversations with you. That, and the fact that you get your delicate feelings hurt when someone makes a joke at your expense. What do you think this place is? The Circle Jerk Club? The Recovering Christian-aholics Club? The Respect Me Because I'm Insane Club?

No no, my dear...YOU are the one who needs to mature. Not Mequa (who hurt your feelings in an earlier post). Not Mike, who's right around your age, yet knows better than to expect to be soothed and petted when he makes idiotic, rambling posts.

Go hang out on Yahoo forums and find some eSatanists, or whatever. You obviously have proven that you can't take the heat that is dished out here on a regular basis. Ever heard of Trial by Fire? You failed.



I'm not feeding into this. I do not get where you are coming from, what you are trying to tell me, or what weakness you are striving for.


Edited by Gabby (02/07/09 06:16 PM)
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#19900 - 02/07/09 06:17 PM Re: Laveyan Satanism or Traditional Satanism [Re: Mike]
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 Originally Posted By: Mike
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Not Mike, who's right around your age, yet knows better than to expect to be soothed and petted when he makes idiotic, rambling posts.


Yeah, you tell her Nemesis! Oh wait...

Gabby: Accept the fact that you're posts suck, appologize (to yourself mostly) and try to post with more wisdom in the future. Just some friendly advice.



I shouldn't have been nice to you Mike, or read your shitty story. Yeah, real friendly.........
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#19902 - 02/07/09 06:24 PM Re: Laveyan Satanism or Traditional Satanism [Re: Gabby]
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Hook, line and sinker....

You are "feeding into this". If you weren't you wouldn't have responded. I got where she was coming from, and if you had read her post you would have too.

By the way; insulting a moderator is not exactly the smartest thing one could do. You could have at least disguised your insult as an intelligent and well thought out response.
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#19904 - 02/07/09 06:26 PM Re: Laveyan Satanism or Traditional Satanism [Re: Mike]
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Sorry Mike! That sentence read all wrong...

It should've gone like, "yet would know better than to expect to be soothed and petted when if he made idiotic, rambling posts."
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#19913 - 02/07/09 08:41 PM Re: Laveyan Satanism or Traditional Satanism [Re: Gabby]
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MY shitty story? I was trying to help you out because you're fairly new to the forum and you seemed a bit uneducated in the topic at hand and your claim was a little off. I wasn't trying to be rude, I just couldn't think of a better way to say it. At least I was honest with you, and yes, I was giving you friendly advice. If you plan on sticking around a little longer you'll see that I was being nice compared to the way some would rip you apart, which they probably haven't yet because they don't even see you as worthy enough to be taught a lesson.

I don't care if you should've or shouldn't have been nice to me. I was doing you a favor, no matter what way you see it. Just watch how many people will jump on your case for pulling shit like this in the future. At least some of us had the decency to warn you and attempt to correct you, but if you're really going to be that stubborn you might as well find yourself on the list of members that've been banned.

Toughen up a bit and take what people say and put it to use. One thing I have learned from people on here is that sometimes it's better to just shut up and listen. Perhaps for you this is one of those times.


And thanks Nemesis, I knew what you meant. ;\)


Edited by Mike (02/07/09 08:42 PM)
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#20148 - 02/11/09 12:05 PM Re: Laveyan Satanism or Traditional Satanism [Re: Zoid]
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Zoid,

1st, when I wrote "Hell exists, we're all living in it !" I mainly mean that this twisted world with its wars, rapes, murders, hypocrysis and all sort of injustice is finally not far from the Hell representation of average man or average Xian.

2nd, I'm not a specialist of Freud and my undertsatnding of Id Ego & Super-Ego is what I just read on wiki.

So, what about Satan as "representing the alliance of Id plus Ego victorious over the Superego!".

First clear thing is that the Super-Ego, seeking for conformity with the society, is the one to overcome.
But is Satan the Id+Ego, that I don't know, I would have to think more about it.

May be taking some more concrete example could help us : the 1st example is named Mr Prozi. It's the man who continued sending electric shocks to another man because a certain Mr Milgram told him that "the experience ought to continue". Mr Prozi gut feeling (id) cried for him to stop, his super-ego shouted he had to continue; but what is his ego in this case, where was it, what was it doing? Sleeping?

2nd example : someone stops smoking. What's the role of the Id here? Is it that who pushes him to smoke, seeking for immediate gratification? What's the role of the Super-Ego and the Ego then?
To me, there're 2 way for stopping smoking. First, one can decide, following a rational thinking process, that's it's beeter to stop, then tries to stop ... and often fails.
Second, one can pay attention to "this little voice" who tells him it's better for him to stop. Is it again the Id crying because he knows & feels that smoking is destroying the body?

I don't have all the answers but these 2 examples hellp me to progress on my own path. So, just want to share with you as it could help you as well...

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#20150 - 02/11/09 12:09 PM Re: Laveyan Satanism or Traditional Satanism [Re: Mike]
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 Originally Posted By: Mike

Gabby: Accept the fact that you're posts suck, appologize (to yourself mostly) and try to post with more wisdom in the future. Just some friendly advice.


You want a friendly advice Mike? Stop wasting your love and frienship to the ingrates ;\)

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#20167 - 02/11/09 04:17 PM Re: Laveyan Satanism or Traditional Satanism [Re: Fabiano]
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Hey, what can I say? I'm just nice that way. You are right though, but if I can get my point across to one ingrate I've earned myself a nice pat on the back to say the least. I was giving a new member a chance to clean up their act and not get banned. A lost cause of course, but it's the thought that counts.
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#21996 - 03/14/09 02:49 AM Re: Laveyan Satanism or Traditional Satanism [Re: Sinistar]
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i agree with pigfeeder. he states a validpoint. if your given everything itdosnt show you have faith. in order to have faith you do have to work for it and find it. your choice in what you choose to believe is based all on the amount of effort you put into research and learning. the less you do the harder the choice. but youll figure it out eventually. good luck!!!!
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#22030 - 03/15/09 10:36 AM Re: Laveyan Satanism or Traditional Satanism [Re: KennyWhite]
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My personal philosophy as applied to my own professional development is: Faith=Trust. Trust is gained through proof. Because there are way too many bullshitters out there in the industry i work in, and there is a world of difference of walking the walk and talking the talk. Knowledge does not equal experience.
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#22041 - 03/15/09 12:25 PM Re: Laveyan Satanism or Traditional Satanism [Re: FromGehenna]
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Well, after 11 pages of this clap-trap, I really must pose a question.

Where in history do you find 'Traditional Satanism'? In nearly 25 years of research, I have never seen any historical reference to Satanism that was (1) not a creation of The Church or (2) uncited historical revisionism by post LaVey authors.

The closest thing I can find to actual worship of 'Satan' as a dark entity are various Latin American and Afro-Caribbean cults. Even these are not 'traditional' religions. Rather, they are an amalgam of aboriginal animism and pantheon combined with the Catholic system of saints and angels.

Where do you people get this 'traditional Satanism' from? Cite a source or simply admit it is all made up!
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#22042 - 03/15/09 12:28 PM Re: Laveyan Satanism or Traditional Satanism [Re: Fist]
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Fist cuts it to the BONE!!!

Thanks, Fist.
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