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#9195 - 05/29/08 12:33 PM Re: Satanists anti social? [Re: Amina]
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Absolutely. I'd probably be in a sales profession instead of a lab/technical one if I loved people! I'd definitely be making more money. But I've always preferred working by myself. Even as a kid, I wanted to work alone and undisturbed, because I was more efficient and did a better job than if I was constantly being interrupted. I also do terrible in a retail position. There's only so much ass-kissing and "take it with a smile" garbage that I can stand before I lose it. The customer can go jump in front of a bus, as long as I can do my work in peace
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#9220 - 05/30/08 12:31 PM Re: Satanists anti social? [Re: Nemesis]
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Me too.. My parents said at the age of four I closed my bedroom door while sitting in my rocking chair reading an encyclopedia while all five of my sisters and other kids were convoying from place to place every minute. I couldn't stand it when they'd all barge in..I guess I just always have an agnda in mind and the only disruptions or detours I don't mind are those of my own doing. Maybe I'm kind of a bitch, but I can't help grind my teeth when nonsense disrupts me. ..I'd honestly say that 95% of the time, I would much rather hear myself think, as way out as that can be at times LOL! .. than hear the bullshit of others if it's not pertinent to "Doc's day planner. " ..truth be told!
(Straightforward as i can be, I don't think many people mind, my being a loner, either!) BUT, those I care for are always certain of how much I do. So long as that remains stellar in their minds, I'm content.


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#9248 - 05/30/08 08:06 PM Re: Satanists anti social? [Re: Nemesis]
Kon Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Nemesis

I work in a wholesale optical lab, and most of the positions there are repetitive/no-brainer stuff. The "grunts" do that kind of stuff. But I have changed positions so many times, gaining skill each time, that I can perform every station in the lab, most better than others, as well as several things up front in the mailroom, editing, and bookkeeping positions. I'm all over the place every day, which I'm grateful for because I get bored very easily. My work keeps my brain sharp, while others' are being slowly ground down to a nub because they lack the skills and/or desire to learn anything new.


You know I used to think it was all grunt stuff, the repetition and lack of challenge... thinking quick on my feet as I breeze through tasks in the workplace gets me the exact reactions you just described from coworkers. Funny thing is, it wouldn't matter if you were an engineer, or coded Oracle for a living....that most assuredly isn't classified "grunt" work I hope...
When you've done something technical for so long, it's all repetitive.

You're not going to find the cutting edge, I could chase the sun on foot and have a better chance....lol nvm.

Though...I'm not saying that learning new things is something you can ever stop either.

Man this is way off topic, ahhhh..hmm. You know Nemesis if you were a part of some research or cloning devel group I'd say otherwise, cause well that's not just lights and clockwork, or logic now is it? The creativity or ingenuity of the human world astounds me, without it we wouldn't have half the technology we do.

There are many who without some branch into the particular direction they would like to go with their knowledge or education, wouldn't be happy. They use every wit they can sharpen at work, and sometimes even turn their favorite hobbies into goldmines.... when someone has that much to say or do about things outside of work, they are usually seriously fucking starved for appreciation and challenge....fuCK!lol.

Most of us have a lot to say. Underachieving was never my goal, lol. I love my job.
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#9274 - 05/31/08 12:19 PM Re: Satanists anti social? [Re: Amina]
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Registered: 05/16/08
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WHy should self-loathing push one into occult studies? Would that not be more akin to self-love? Seeking your own ends through said studies? As for anti-social behavior, I don't think a true satanist is anti-social so much as he is selectively social, which really should apply to any rational human being. Not every human being is deserving of your attention and caring. Evaluate people you meet, size them up, be judgemental. "Judge not, lest ye be judged" is Christian for "be amoral and everyone will love you."
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#9933 - 06/30/08 01:36 AM Re: Satanists anti social? [Re: Nemesis]
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Funny, I've been thinking about this too.

I've decided I am not anti-people on principle. Actually I crave people. But I am extremely picky. I am very bothered by insincerity, inauthenticty, and self-compromise, in others just as much as in myself. (I admit I tend towards Satanism just because I like honesty, rather than any "might is right" way of thinking, which also means yes, I think you can be true to yourself and generous to others at the same time.)

Though I really need people, I find myself often avoiding everyone just to stay away from annoying ones, who are pretty common to me. I am not proud of this; I consider it a weakness.
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#10021 - 07/02/08 09:42 AM Re: Satanists anti social? [Re: Sinthesis]
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 Originally Posted By: Sinthesis
I admit I tend towards Satanism just because I like honesty, rather than any "might is right" way of thinking


Was it not Ragnar Redbeard's "Might Is Right" that good ol' Anton partially plagiarized for his miraculous Satanic Bible?
So in that light your statement, I think, needs some explaining...
I have always felt that "might is right" is the way of a satanist.
It is the lion amidst the sheep. A predator by nature in a way.

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#10102 - 07/06/08 08:33 AM Re: Satanists anti social? [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
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i think through pain and self loathing it causes us as a species in general to grow . anything or anyone content leads to stagnation . i say satisfaction IS the death of true desire . to be happy is the goal . to be satisfied brings indolance and i would rather strive with the fire in my heart and the strength in my veins .

being self satisfied means you are FINISHED in your journey on the left hand path . "i" would rather continue mine!
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#10227 - 07/15/08 02:55 AM Re: Satanists anti social? [Re: Nemesis]
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I don't know. I think I'm rather insane, and friends tell me the same. But I haven't been to the psychologist in a long while. : P

As for Satanists being anti-social? I think it depends on a person. I don't think being a Satanist makes you anti-social. If you are, it's because it's how you are, not because you're Satanist.

As for hating myself? I don't see how that fits in, but no, of course I don't hate myself. Being a Satanist, that would be sort of a contradiction, don't you think?
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#10243 - 07/16/08 05:54 AM Re: Satanists anti social? [Re: SevenDeadlySins]
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Through pain and self loathing sounds like the way of the emo...
Quite often is self loathing bred by insecurities and failure. Should such be applied to Satanism it would be like turning Satanists into emos...
Self loathing just for the sake of keeping your self from ever being satisfied sounds just plain stupid. And the same goes with pain.
Pain is what you get in life, and is also present in some rituals (not talking about satanic rituals) but to inflict it upon one's self just as a reminder seems a bit weak willed.

And I don't think satisfaction equals stagnation. What's wrong with being satisfied with your achievements, it should only encourage to achieve more, once you've seen your up to the task. It should be self evident that positive outcomes encourage better than failures, and satisfaction is a kind of prerequisite for a healthy life and mind...

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#10305 - 07/20/08 01:18 AM Re: Satanists anti social? [Re: Salem]
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I wouldn't consider myself necessarily antisocial, though I do at times imbibe so much stupidity from the mouths of my fellow countrymen I feel the need for long stretches of solitude. My frustration usually stems from discussing what I consider to be worthwhile subjects, only to have my statements met with blank stares or wild tangents wholly unrelated to my topic.

I'm a stickler for courtesy, so I'll make an excuse to leave and politely thank them for their time. I needn't subject myself to anything I deem less than worthwhile, but I try very hard to foster positive relationships for the utilitarian purpose of having vouchers for character should I meet with any misfortune requiring it. Lesser Magic is something to be mindful of.

I almost view my day to day interactions as something akin to a very elaborate play, which allows me to filter my dialogs through a theatrical lens and thus alleviate a tremendous amount of disgust I'd acquire through traditionally absorbed social interaction. They see what I allow them to see, and as they fall victim to my glamor all parties walk away without menace, as I'm sure we'll find ourselves cast in a scene together in the future.

I'm not implying that I fool myself into thinking I'm their superior at first glance; such a proposition would be dangerous and potentially insulting to an equal, or, dare I say it, a superior. If revealed to be weaker than myself, I realize I have a potential cog in some future machination, and treat them accordingly. Even if I consider them inferior, I'm aware enough to understand they may have a concept or three to teach me if I'm astute enough to listen. In the case of the equal or superior, I realize I may potentially have a confidant, and a source of practical wisdom I can apply beneficially to my own life.

That being said, there are certain individuals I'll avoid at all costs, as I've determined they offer nothing of value and continued association is at my personal expense. I've no right as a Satanist to complain about a situation I need not subject myself to.
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#10338 - 07/24/08 09:49 PM Re: Satanists anti social? [Re: Xande]
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My personal opinion is, that most people see Satanists as anti-social based upon the one fact that, we are reserved. In saying that, I'm heading towards our principle to think about what we say before we say it. So in doing this, we end up talking less then the ignorant filth that infests much of our habitat, society, of our world.

Some of us get so sick of this endless stupidity, that as Satanists, we take it upon ourselves to leave, remove ourself from the mindless sheep that seem to be multiplying and infesting, and we seek solitude. Coming out when it is benefit to us.

Just my opinion.




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#10342 - 07/25/08 03:19 AM Re: Satanists anti social? [Re: PigFeeder]
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Iím also quite reserved and have found that I only get seen as anti-social if I look a certain way. If I wear black Iím anti-social, if I wear colours Iím just that quiet girl. Interesting. I wear less black than I used to and even though Iím a lot less social and extroverted now, Iím not thought to be as anti-social by people in general.

Not profound, just a thought.

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#10374 - 07/29/08 10:00 PM Re: Satanists anti social? [Re: psiren]
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Well in truth , the reason I made the following statement above is because true satisfaction means to be complacent. You have everything you could want. What I meant about pain and self-loathing used for growth is what makes human beings so spectacular is that we ATTEMPT to change what is making us unhappy constantly. As far as that being an "emo" statement , I would make sure you KNOW whom you are calling emo before rattling off nicknames. I AM NOT EMO.
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#10379 - 07/30/08 06:47 AM Re: Satanists anti social? [Re: SevenDeadlySins]
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 Originally Posted By: SevenDeadlySins
Well in truth , the reason I made the following statement above is because true satisfaction means to be complacent. You have everything you could want.


Not once have I seen or heard of a man, who one day just sat back realizing he's got all he needs and stopped craving for more...

 Originally Posted By: SevenDeadlySins
As far as that being an "emo" statement , I would make sure you KNOW whom you are calling emo before rattling off nicknames. I AM NOT EMO.


Maybe not, but that sure is an emotional response \:D I didn't even call YOU one, just criticized what was said. And had you put it out some other way, it wouldn't have sounded so emo. But when the focus is on proposed pain and suffering, one can't help but think of emos...

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#10381 - 07/30/08 04:16 PM Re: Satanists anti social? [Re: Kon]
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A bit off topic.......but what the hell happened?

I'm seeing some really great discussions, and awesome writing in these threads lately.

Shit, often I find myself out classed, out witted, with nothing left to add.

I love it!!
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