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#90588 - 07/05/14 08:40 PM EA Koeting
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I am just now discovering this individual's work. He has numerous Youtube videos concerning the Occult, and several published works I see on Amazon. Is anyone familiar with him? Thoughts on his work?

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#90598 - 07/05/14 09:24 PM Re: EA Koeting [Re: Xaziel]
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I'm just generally skeptical of a "magician" that sells their secrets. That's just me, though - if I knew something "you all" didn't I'd shut-the-fuck-up about it and play dumb.

Mostly, because the shit that works for me just won't work for you and the shit that works for you just won't work for me. Also, a lot of "it" is purely tacit.

Ya know, he reads like one of those "Secret to___" / "Tricks they don't want you to know" commercials - talks a lot but doesn't say much.

I hear "sales pitch"
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#90599 - 07/05/14 09:25 PM Re: EA Koeting [Re: antikarmatomic]
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I hear "sales pitch"


THIS.

He's always come off pretentious to me. Boring. He doesn't captivate my attention for long.
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#90601 - 07/05/14 09:35 PM Re: EA Koeting [Re: Xaziel]
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 Originally Posted By: Xaziel
Thoughts on his work?

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Yes, please do go ahead and tell us what you think. It is your thread after all.
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#90604 - 07/05/14 09:37 PM Re: EA Koeting [Re: SIN3]
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Ah, Ok...just stumbled up on him.

No, anti, I never thought to sell my experience either. I'll tell it, not sell it. If I did make money off it, it would be for something much bigger; A book. A screenplay. And I think in those unlikely circumstances, magic wouldn't even be the beef of the story.

Sin, I noticed he is selling some works that - - well, I would not sell - I won't get into which titles, because that leads to questions as to why. I would be the Walter White of the Occult; I'd write something that people would crave more of, for a reasonable price. I'd never "cheat" my customers (magicians). That is what we see on the bookshelves. Anyway, I am not even an Author but if I were, I'd want to give my Associates the Best there is.

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#90606 - 07/05/14 09:42 PM Re: EA Koeting [Re: Xaziel]
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f I did make money off it, it would be for something much bigger; A book. A screenplay. And I think in those unlikely circumstances, magic wouldn't even be the beef of the story.
fair enough.

But, well - ok, I'm still curious to hear what you make of the dude.
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#90607 - 07/05/14 09:46 PM Re: EA Koeting [Re: antikarmatomic]
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I have to look into him. I've read none of his work. Just seen portions of his videos. I wish he'd dress a little snappier, but that's just a pet peeve.
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#90608 - 07/05/14 09:48 PM Re: EA Koeting [Re: SIN3]
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What's funny about him is (and I stumbled through a few youtube videos of his just for it having been brought to my attention courtesy of the OP)

He doesn't actually "say" anything. Now, I know I definitely rant and ramble from time to time (probably more often than not, but shhhh! that's neither here nor there) - but it's sorta like being a bullshitter listening to someone else's bullshit.

In short (it's a trap)



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#90609 - 07/05/14 09:56 PM Re: EA Koeting [Re: Xaziel]
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Well, I'd say "don't bother" except that he seems to make for great mockery fodder - have at it \:D
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#90610 - 07/05/14 10:03 PM Re: EA Koeting [Re: SIN3]
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Boring as toast, rice, and green-beans. I can't for the life of me find a direct statement - and I'm pretty damned patient. Shit, I'll even hear a drunken hobo out for teh-lulz.

But I seriously cannot find one solid stance amongst this guy's bantering, and I most definitely know all about banter.

Oh nice - Someone beat us to it.


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#90611 - 07/05/14 10:12 PM Re: EA Koeting [Re: antikarmatomic]
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I don't know. The guy could be sincere. In this realm it's a crapshoot. Within what we do, these arts, it's layers of bullshit. I think that someone who is really engaged in that kind of practice, probably isn't writing a book right now. I think there is too much going on. Even if you throw to the four winds the idea of never-ending life, the physical world is enough. The daily struggle of existence keeps the plate full. On one hand, it leaves no room for the experience of Satan. On the other, it all has to do with Satan. Regardless of how you define him - Force - Being - her. I think Occultists need to not write so much, be still. Keep our mouths closed so to speak.
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#90615 - 07/05/14 11:04 PM Re: EA Koeting [Re: Xaziel]
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Tell ya' what. If you're into lucid dreaming, go buy yourself some pyridoxine (B6) take that shit about 2 hours before you crash out and experiment - it's neat and it works.

What you make of it is all on you, though.

Anyway, sure, the guy could be sincere - but then just stop there. shrug and say "hey there are no gurus - figure it out yourself".

I mean, when I do see a fellow skater / guitar player all I do is drop in and thrash out, I don't just stand there offering tips n' shit.

I'm always leery of the types that do that. I mean could you imagine? "Here's my 3 secret tips to becoming a better skateboarder"? Lol, skaters are sometimes (typically) kinda dickish too, so the analogy applies - it's more about "watch me tear it up and buy my merch"

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I think Occultists need to not write so much, be still


Well, lets say you actually figured out how to leave your body - like legit status... are you going to blab about it to the world? and why? cuz I can think of 100 better way to utilize that skill to make money - but only in a world where such things are considered impossible.
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#90617 - 07/05/14 11:19 PM Re: EA Koeting [Re: antikarmatomic]
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 Originally Posted By: antikarmatomic

I hear "sales pitch"



Yes, THIS.

Has anybody watched some of his videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/EAKoettingOfficial

If you send him money, he can teach you how to have "Godlike Powers." BTW: what is "Hardcore Magic?"

The only reason why I'm personally somewhat familiar with this guy's name was a few years back he did this interview online where he was talking about his early "rough and dangerous days" where he was doing dangerous things like getting involved with the criminal underground and was even a member of the ONA! Which I guess was supposed to enhance his "dangerous and rough experience in the criminal undergound" aura. My friends sent me the link to the interview and some links to his early videos... we laughed our asses off.

I have to say, over the years he's gotten better with creating his videos. In the past, you should have seen his videos. It was him dressed sloppy, hair barely combed, sitting in his bedroom, with a cheap wrinkled black bedsheet draped behind him. And in that environment and condition, he was trying to sell people the idea that he can teach you magical secrets to make all your dreams come true! Akin to how a fat lady would try to sell you secrets of weight loss.

There is a saying in my culture that goes: "If you can't smell a person before you see them, then they're probably nobody."

"Smell" in that saying means "Reputation." People who put in an effort to build a NAME, BRAND, LABEL, for themselves - in a good way or bad way - have this reputation to them where in English we say: "Their reputation proceeds them," like you can smell some people before they enter a room.

In other words: if you have to ask who a person is, or if anybody has heard of them, and so on, then this person is most likely an irrelavent nobody. Such nobodies with no Name, Brand, that has no Reputation [good or bad] can't be trusted. Simply because most often, nobody knows them, nobody knows what they are all about, nobody's got the dirt or 411 on them. A person with no rep, no name, no brand, no recognizable "aura" is "wet behind the ears" with whatever they are doing or claim to be doing. Cuz such types simply have not done it enough to Built familiarity.
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#90619 - 07/05/14 11:58 PM Re: EA Koeting [Re: Caladrius]
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Has anybody watched some of his videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/EAKoettingOfficial


Welcome to my YouTube channel where I will teach you to become like god - totally makes sense... that's how Mohamed did it, right? YouTube? No? ok then... anyway...

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over the years he's gotten better with creating his videos.
if *this* is better I am dying to know what the early days were like.

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if you can't smell a person before you see them, then they're probably nobody
suddenly I don't feel so bad about showering only every 3-4 days :p

Still, the way I see it is if you genuinely have shit figured out 1) it's not very easy to explain - sure, I can write... but it's all about normal/critical shit.

How the fuck I ended up in Thailand and back is another story.

Not to be arrogant, but the world is open to me.

How it becomes that way is something I don't think I can explain to anyone - but I do know that I am not unique in this either. there are those who "ride the whirlwinds" and I normally just nod and wave "'sup" "chillin!" "yeah me too" "carry on" "word"

I wouldn't even care to try to put anyone on "my level" (whatever the shit that means) - and if I DO start trying, you can rest assured and bet your sweet ass that I only want your money (in which case, don't listen to me)

Another good phrase is (and I know it can be turned against me because I definitely like to write - but whatever)

"don't talk about it; be about it"


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#90621 - 07/06/14 12:14 AM Re: EA Koeting [Re: antikarmatomic]
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Ok Anti...I see you are not a big EA fan. One common vibe I get here on this forum, is that you guys fuckin' HATE "teachers". Hate them. If it comes to Satanism, forget it. You guys aren't gonna be told a goddamn thing.

Anyway. I do concur.

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