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#90755 - 07/08/14 10:30 AM Sleep Paralysis
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Some people experience this state of being, which occurs during sleep.
It can be simply describes as "only eyes are open, blinking; you are slightly awake, but the body is motionless, you can not move". It lasts only for a few seconds."
Sometimes it seems like other persons (beings) are present in the bedroom. It's rather unpleasant, tense feeling.

As, always science offeres an "axlike" explanations which can make you laugh because of it's "simpletonicity" and nave outlook...
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#90756 - 07/08/14 10:55 AM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: Naama]
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Do you experience this?

I've never had this happen though I frequently have lucid dreams... the kind when you wake up once and then doze back off and when you wake up whatever you were dreaming is close enough to the surface to feel absolutely real. Happened this morning to me, in fact. I woke up convinced my clothes were wet because I was walking through a flood in my neighborhood.
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#90758 - 07/08/14 11:04 AM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: Naama]
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...is what happens when your mind fails to properly transition into sleep. It's like being in REM sleep and having that project itself into what you think is still your conscious surroundings. The inability to move is standard muscle weakness that accompanies REM sleep. It's like being in both states at once.
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#90759 - 07/08/14 11:13 AM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: CanisMachina42]
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Had this happen once, weirdest dream ever! They were doing some construction on the roads up the street from my house. The machines made this loud humming noise. Translation in my sleep: Space Ship. I was dreaming of being sucked up into an alien vessel. Woke up dead smack in the middle and my body was actually elevated at a 90 degree angle. Hurt my neck like hell too. So in my brain, I was forcing my body into this position.

Took a few to shake out of it, then I had a good laugh about it.

What I do remember vividly, was the pins and needles sensation.

I had read somewhere that dreams like this and nightmares actually play a role as a biological mechanism to protect the body. So, if you're cutting off blood circulation the brain brings you out of deep sleep, then mind fucks you to wake you.

Sounds legit.
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#90767 - 07/08/14 02:47 PM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: SIN3]
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I'm thinking I mentioned this very thing before on some other thread - 'can't remember which one. 'Maybe even on a few threads *shrugs* who knows?


Either way; YES! this happens to me with an alarming frequency. It is totally real (just not sure how "normal" it is)

It used to scare the nuts off me when I was a kid, but now I'm sorta used to it - its sometimes even "neat" to experiment with.
(I have no way of explaining how I experiment with it without sounding bat-shit crazy, so I'll politely decline to comment)

I get this "whirring" noise in my ears, and the feeling that there most definitely IS a malevolent presence in the room with me - and "arggggh! 'can't move! shit!"

Since it happens all the time, I'm not exactly freaked out by it anymore - it's more along the lines of startled curiosity.

The only real unnerving thing about it is that IF some intruder were actually in the room during one of these episodes I would be royally screwed.

Then, again I do tend to sleep with my arms as a pillow, so old-hag-syndrome or not, I always wake up with a tingly dead arm (sometimes both arms, which makes it really damn hard to get out of bed some mornings - all flopping around like an epileptic slug) so either way - I'm probably screwed no matter what.

'pretty friggin' hard to reach for a weapon when you have to wait a full minute before you can move your arms.

...but that's a separate issue.

What I have found with sleep paralysis / old hag syndrome is (at least for me)

1) it tends to occur when I'm asleep but too-warm - as in sweaty-type warm.

2) coffee *might* play a role - I've reached no conclusion on that, but I have my suspicions.

It certainly can be a rather unsettling experience, especially if it doesn't happen all the time. Once you get familiar with it it's pretty "neat" - incredibly hard to describe, but neat.

As a kid I used to shake myself awake and out of it (takes effort).

Lately I've found that it's more effective to pry one of my own eyelids open - this is something I do unconsciously when I've had enough "experimenting". It's not a mental process that translates very well into text, 'cuz - ya know - "dream logic"

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Took a few to shake out of it, then I had a good laugh about it
yeap, that's pretty much how it goes.


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#90768 - 07/08/14 02:57 PM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: antikarmatomic]
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Yeah, good point. Not only are you disoriented but there's a good chance body parts need a few to get blood to them.

Funny you mention the noise in your ears. I guess that's close to what it sounded like. Part of it was the humming of the machines outside, part was in my own head. Amplified perhaps?

I was totally out of it. Initially when I realized I was in this weird position, it wasn't as if I immediately fell to the bed. Took a few seconds so 'paralysis' is a good term to describe it.

Still, for the life of me I can't figure out how I managed that. I couldn't even do it again if I tried.

I was looking around for a visual aid, this is as close as I can get:

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#90769 - 07/08/14 03:23 PM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: SIN3]
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Funny you mention the noise in your ears. I guess that's close to what it sounded like
it is very hard to describe - it's more of a "panning" (audio) roar - almost mechanized, but I think "whirring" is "good enough".

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'paralysis' is a good term to describe it
yeah it works - and is generally acceptable. I mean, you can sorta move, but it's not easy. It's more like a straight-jacket, I figure.

The pic pretty much captures it... I'm not 100% sure what I'm looking at but it seems hawt :p

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Still, for the life of me I can't figure out how I managed that. I couldn't even do it again if I tried.


I don't think it is deliberate, it's a glitch' - sorta like trying to get to -1 in Super Mario Brothers

I do think, or at least suspect, that body temperature has a lot to do with it.


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#90847 - 07/10/14 10:29 AM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: antikarmatomic]
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I do think, or at least suspect, that body temperature has a lot to do with it.


It could be a fail-safe for that but from what I recall, my body temp was normal.

The Hindus have a concept for this, varying degrees of consciousness and dreaming. When you contort yourself during sleep, it's a mingling in between the samsaras. It has more to do with the 'flow' of consciousness.

Clinicians when treating 'disorders' of consciousness, use a coma scale to troubleshoot the neurological disorder; trying to track down the underlying cause if it's a routine sleep pattern. Sometimes it's just a single instance, which is why I lean more towards biological triggers as warning signs - something is wrong. It could be blood flow, breathing, or something wonky in your neural pathways. Body temp could play a role but something is causing that.

See: Cambridge University: Sleep & Dreaming Scientific Advances and Reconsiderations
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#90863 - 07/10/14 03:32 PM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: SIN3]
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GAH!!!!

"It's not a tumah"

heh, 'weirds me the shit out when people suggest it's a neurological problem.

I'm happy swimming in "deNile" with them damn Hippos (those fuckers will eat anything - people, even marbles! True story :|)
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#90929 - 07/11/14 01:46 PM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: Fnord]
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I have had this happen on a few occasions, but it is not lucid dreaming..at least I do not think so.

After the initial shock of the experience is over, step on out of your body and look around ;\) .

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#91096 - 07/21/14 01:50 AM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: LoneWolf78]
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Do you experience this?


yes, many times.
Not recently though..., but it followed my rigorous experimenting with occult and black magic.

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I've never had this happen though I frequently have lucid dreams...


I experience two types of lucid dreams.
It's difficult to explain the difference, but the second kind is extremely vivid... First one is usually more or less an "afternoon nap dream". Second one conveys a meaning and revelation.

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I was dreaming of being sucked up into an alien vessel.


Yes, the aliens were there, in my case, too... Seems like many people report this theme.
These goddam monsters were staying by my bed, scanning, was pretty creepy...
However I tend to believe that all the alien encounters are just simply interactions with "good old demons" as we know them. Maybe even incubi/succubus...
Church also says that aliens are just demons...
And ancient Indian knowledge narrates that demons (asuras) are always most active during planet Mar's activity.
That's why it's an often theme - that "aliens are from Mars", in particular...




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#91104 - 07/21/14 10:21 AM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: Naama]
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When I was attending school, I heard an interesting theory. That we are dreaming when we are awake and that when we are dreaming in bed, that is when we are awake.

When I was younger, I often had sleep paralysis problems. Sometimes I would have it twice a week, sometimes once a month. However, back then I ate unhealthily and did not exercise. Now I do both and I have never had a problem with sleep paralysis since.

In the early days, people attributed sleep paralysis to demons. As a result, I think there is a statue, maybe it was a picture, of a demon holding onto a person while they were sleeping. That is really what it felt like.

I dreamed about aliens once, while most of my dreams are post-apocalyptic. I think it has to do more with one's fears manifesting, rather than anything else. Though they still provide useful insight.

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#91293 - 07/29/14 04:47 PM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: theharkonnen]
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The boundary between sleeping and wakefulness is not clear-cut.

Sleep paralysis, alien abuctions, incubi / succubi, old hags, lucid dreams, out of body experiences, astral projection -- are some of the many strange mental states that exist at this border.

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#92338 - 08/22/14 08:42 PM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: Stag]
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I once experienced a dream paralysis episode. I was just dreaming of my room and its surroundings. I was trying to move but I couldn't. I was trying to touch things around me but I couldn't. Suddenly I woke up, but I wasn't sure if I was still dreaming.
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#92343 - 08/23/14 02:16 AM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: witch]
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I have had a similar experience, usually started when the lights go out in my dream. When the lights go out I start fighting to breakout of the dream state, I usually succeed.
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#92963 - 09/14/14 08:10 PM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: Naama]
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It's a very weird feeling. A few times (mostly alone in a bedroom) I can't move and I also feel this very weird aura around me, like somebody else is in the same room as I am, watching me. Sometimes I decipher this as Satan or a demon being in the same room as me This usually lingers for about 3-5 seconds.

Kind of creepy and suspenseful if you ask me.
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#93755 - 10/16/14 02:35 PM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: Naama]
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I myself experience sleep paralysis during meditation, attempting astral projection,under hypnosis, and also attempting lucid dreaming. Astral projection is when your mind is awake. But you can't move your body. It's really interesting I might say. It freaked me out the first time it happened about a year ago attempting astral projection. It's a sign that your heading torwards the right steps to moving out of your physical body.
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#94876 - 12/17/14 08:11 PM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: Camila Carroll]
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I know a family that experiences sleep paralysis. A mother and a son. The strange thing is, the malevolent force that visits them is the same. I always presumed it was unique for each individual. The son says the figure is unfamiliar, but the mother recognizes it. However, the mother refuses to speak about sleep paralysis, as if she is ashamed. She even goes so far as to try to get the son to not speak of it, but he's a teenager, and thus rebellious.

I am going to speculate on the nature of the apparition here. The most obvious explanation would be a ghost of some sort, likely of somebody related, and is thus haunting the family. However, I am always skeptical about ghosts, and the physical description of this one indicates no blood relation. Perhaps some demon? That would indicate all sleep paralysis sufferers are being targeted by supernatural forces, which I find unlikely. My best "scientific" explanation is that the apparition is some sort of Jungian archetype. The condition is genetic and the same image is likely based on some similar experience that is common in families. Of course, this is full of holes and assumes very specific archetypes

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#94881 - 12/18/14 08:08 AM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: Mahoun]
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We are (most, but not all of us) paralyzed in our sleep. Just to keep us from getting up and doing things we might regret.

But yeah, this standard state of affairs admits of two really interesting exceptions. One on either side.
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#95023 - 12/23/14 11:38 PM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: Naama]
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This has happened to me as well. I couldnt move but my eyes were open and my room was full of swirling colors. On top of that, I kept hearing banging coming from my walls. Definitely a cool experience. I was able to do this by lying completely still for half an hour in the dark. Its really weird if u do it right and it works.
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#106423 - 04/24/16 07:43 AM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: Naama]
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There was a time I really was into this kind of phenomena.
I thought is was the portal to all kinds powers dimensions or what so ever.

With a little bit of practice or at least focus during the day over these kind of subjects, reading researching. It is easy to increase the frequency of these sleep paralyses and lucid dreams.

The easiest way is to write down all the occurrences you can remember and make them vivid in your mind.
Then pretend as much as you can or want during waking hours that your dreaming.
After a while you start questioning it in a dream itself and changes are good you become lucid.

Is it worth the time you have to invest in it ? I do not know, but it is as close you can get to a psychedelic experience without any substance. And boy, these lucid dreams feel as real as an experience can get, visuals, feelings even smells !

There are two outcomes... or you start understanding how powerful the brain is in projecting/creating thoughts, hallucinations, experiences in the mindspace,

or you start believing there really is a separate reality and indeed see demons, spirits, supernatural entities as a fact.
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#111639 - 03/07/17 01:05 AM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: Naama]
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I've experienced it before and it can be pretty terrifying, especially at first.

There are of course multiple explanations for this just as any other phenomena. Both mundane and paranormal. There is a documentary on Netflix about sleep paralysis called "The Nightmare" that is pretty interesting.

I have found that sleep paralysis is usually a precursor to astral projection.

Both start out very similar.

Essentially the mind wakes up while the body is asleep and the feeling of being "trapped" in the body is what usually results in the "night terror" experience. However, if one uses this "mind awake, body asleep" as a signal, it can be used to trigger an experience of leaving one's body. Most books on OBEs call this the "vibration stage".


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#111640 - 03/07/17 02:26 AM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: PerditionCity]
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Essentially the mind wakes up while the body is asleep and the feeling of being "trapped" in the body is what usually results in the "night terror" experience. However, if one uses this "mind awake, body asleep" as a signal, it can be used to trigger an experience of leaving one's body. Most books on OBEs call this the "vibration stage".


The "New Age" literature on this is as bullshit as star children.  In my opinion it's something like controlled dreaming that just happens to be accurate every so often... 

The instances when this has happened to me has been like typical rem sleep, only I moved with what seemed like "control". At the time I attributed it to spacial memory + the unconcsious mind's ability to 'divine' "the most likely answer".  I find this to be consistent along all similar "astral" phenomenon like psychic ability, possession, channeling, and remote viewing.

I'll even leave an "open mind" for an (un)concsious ability to transmit, receive, or be affected by signals along the theta band (see Schumann resonance). This, not all that dissimilar from the way a windy day can make you agitated.

Live Science had an interesting article on this:

 Originally Posted By: Live Science
Using algorithms that looked at patterns across the entire brain, they found that in addition to the parietal cortex, the hippocampus a brain region critical for memory was also active in producing a sense of location.


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#111955 - 03/22/17 05:56 PM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: CanisMachina42]
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I've had this Sleep Paralysis a few times in my life. The frequency of incidents actually increased after I started doing Occult Rituals. Understood to be correlation, but believe there is some causation there. No incidents for a while now.

Sometimes the SP will initiate an OBE. This has happened to me on a couple occasions; one time not related to SP. I have heard the "tones" mentioned, and the accompanied spatial rotation and/or elevation.

I did wonder if Spiritual attack was a catalyst for the SP; being involved with Occult activity. And since prior to one episode, having felt a "presence" in the room. which is rare for me.

And as far as the OBEs resulting from the SP, well, if it's what it seems to be then it's the consciousness exiting the body. Points for Dualism; I don't have a need to believe in dualism. I'm unbiased.

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That comment wasn't directed at anyone, I thought I was replying to the entire thread. This shouldn't happen again.



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#113077 - 06/06/17 10:13 PM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: Mr Jackson]
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I get this "sleep paralysis" nearly 5 nights a week. I do go through the experience of being unable to move but I'm unsure if anyone goes through this also but occasionally I feel I am unable to breath and feel as if I am suffocating. Everyone says it only last a few seconds or minutes but the longest I've ever had it happen to me was nearly 10 minutes. I have always just fallen asleep because I would never open my eyes.
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#117204 - 10/17/18 04:42 PM Re: Sleep Paralysis [Re: Mr Jackson]
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Is sleep paralysis safe?????
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