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#960 - 10/08/07 07:32 AM Music...
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Hail to all...

I remember when I was in high school and college and I used to listen to bands like The Smiths, Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, The Cure, and Celtic Frost. You know, what's considered "Goth".

Looking back, what were some of us so depressed about back then? We were young and had our whole lives ahead of us. If anything, adulthood is the time to be depressed because of problems with the spouse, the kids, and money, money, money.

I think that a lot of that music back then is more applicable now. Just a thought you guys.
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#962 - 10/08/07 08:04 AM Re: Music... [Re: Sinistar]
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What I have found is that the idea of "now" is always depressing, the idea of "future" is always enlightening, and the idea of "past" is always of wasted worry.

This holds true for differing lengths of "always" of course.

As kids our problems were with responsibilities, friends, and family. In the present our problems are responsibilities, friends, and family. And tomorrow or in our twilight years our problems will be responsibilities, friends, and family. The levels of responsibilities differ from each time. As children it was to get our school work done and pass the tests. As adults, it is to take care of our bills, and the well being of all those we are responsible for. As elders, the responsibilities will include trying to stay healthy and make ends meet to survive another day.

When I was younger it was marilyn manson i used to listen to, because "they got me." Their music was expressing what I was feeling. Then it was Coal Chamber, and Korn, and Panthera. Now it is Slipknot, and all the above mentioned (maybe not so much Manson anymore). The emotions are the same now as they were then, we just put them onto new issues.

At least that's how I see it.

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#966 - 10/08/07 11:15 AM Re: Music... [Re: Sliver]
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Great point, Sliver.

It's just that I feel that there's way more on our plates now. Looking back, our problems just weren't as big as they seem now. Although, it just didn't seem like it back then.

Looking at what you listened to back then, I guess it's safe to say that I'm about 10 years older than you.

In the 90's, a lot of people were into Pantera. I liked when Dimebag Darrell and Vinnie Paul came out with Damage Plan too. Their one and only c.d. is vastly underrated. Thanks.
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#981 - 10/08/07 03:19 PM Re: Music... [Re: Sinistar]
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I think it is also a matter of personal taste. I listen to what could be considered very dark, morbid and, in some cases, depressing music, but I don't find I am or ever really was a terribly depressed person. Of course, I'm not what you could call "buoyant" either.

So many people try to link psychological states of mind with a type of music that one listens to, but I don't really think that there is as direct a correlation as people think there is. I simply listen to what I like, not what I think I should listen to depending on my mood. Many people who could be categorized as depressed listen to "happy" music (mistakenly, I think) as a way to counterbalance their state of mind and futilely hoping to affect a change. Of course, there are, on the other hand, depressed people who listen to depressing music because they "get it" and it's "their music."

Some of the best music is dark, depressing, brooding, and lamentful because, in my opinion, negative emotion is the wellspring of expressive content in music. Think about it for a minute. Even if a person is of a very stoic temperament (i.e. not a crybaby), it is a basic human propensity to be the most vociferous when we are either angry or in pain or experiencing discomfort, whether physical or emotional. You stub your toe and you shout "THAT FUCKING HURT, GODDAMNIT!!!" right? But how many people who are genuinely happy go around shouting to the aether how fucking wonderful they feel? Very few, I should think, because they are content and when one is content, one has very little to complain about. Of course, one could cite such musical examples as Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" or Handel's "Hallelujah Chorus" from the Messiah, or any of K.C. and the Sunshine Band's repertoire for the other side of the argument, but tell me this: are these examples as effective as say Samuel Barber's "Adagio for Strings," Josquin des Prez's "De Profundis Clamavi ad te", or for the popular music equation, Pink Floyd's darkest moments? For some people, perhaps. For others, not so. Then again, it still is a matter of personal taste.
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#982 - 10/08/07 03:35 PM Re: Music... [Re: Draculesti]
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That's true. Remember when the media blamed Marilyn Manson for Columbine? Blamed Ozzie's "Suicide Solution" on teen suicides, even though the song itself was about alcoholism?

Also, we happen to like this type of music. It doesn't mean that I'm feeling depressed everyday.

Anyway, it's my humble opinion that darker, brooding music screams out real life more than other genres. All too often, rap seems to talk about money, women, jewelry, and womanizing.
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#983 - 10/08/07 03:58 PM Re: Music... [Re: Sinistar]
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That's true. Remember when the media blamed Marilyn Manson for Columbine? Blamed Ozzie's "Suicide Solution" on teen suicides, even though the song itself was about alcoholism?


That is more or less what I was alluding to before. It is dangerous to mix psychology with music in such a way as to discredit and defame a band or song by making a surface judgement, as was done with "Suicide Solution," based on what one thinks the song represents after a limited probing of said song. If one were to more deeply explore the lyrics to the song, it becomes clear that it is about struggles with alcoholism. Furthermore, the word "solution" was used in this case not to mean "a means to an end" (particularly that of suicide) but rather in the chemical context of a mixture of substances.

While it is understandable that grieving parents who happened to find the album with the song among their deceased child's effects would want to blame anyone or anything for their child's suicide rather than look to their own shortcomings as parents, it is unfair to blame something which, I think, has little or no bearing on such matters. Very often negligence on the part of the parents, who failed to see the warning signs (which have very little to do with music, I assure you) that something was dangerously amiss with their child, is a common factor. Of course, it is easier for the parents to blame music than it is to blame themselves.
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#994 - 10/09/07 09:28 AM Re: Music... [Re: Draculesti]
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Yeah, who wants to say that they're responsible for their child's suicide? Like you said, the child already had problems before the music came along.

On a lighter note, what do you guys have on your I-pods? My list includes: All That Remains, Dimmu Borgir, Metallica, Slipknot, Stone Sour, AC/DC, Children 0f Bodom, Immortal, Slayer, Darkthrone, Paradise Lost, Cradle Of Filth, Nile, Deicide, Gorgoroth, Satyricon, Anthrax, Lacuna Coil, Celtic Frost, Heaven Shall Burn, Black Label Society, Caliban, Killswitch Engage, Samael, Hate Breed, Skid Row, Guns N Roses, Megadeth, Converge, Jet, Walls Of Jericho, The White Stripes, The Doors, Lynard Skynard, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Korn, Cannibal Corpse, Breaking Benjamin, Neil Young, Iron Maiden and Audioslave. There's a few more, but that's all I can think of in the meantime.
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#1080 - 10/14/07 09:05 AM Re: Music... [Re: Sinistar]
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Who assumes we have ipods?

As for what we what we listen to, I would rather hope that this forum does not fall to the level of listing bands we like. This isn't myspace after all.

The discussion was getting good with the correlation between music and mood/psychology.

Let's not bring it down.

My view, the same people who complain about "broody" music influencing "teens" are the same who complain about violent video games.
Some small factor may be included, but nothing substantial, and is generally focused on rather than the underlying mental problems.

After all, it's so much easier to lay blame to some famous musician who has millions to spare in fines and fees, than it is to hear what a fucked up society we are and how actions within said society force incidents like Columbine.

I'm a little surprised I didn't go nuts on my school, or that a million other kids aren't blasting their problems away.

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#1085 - 10/14/07 02:03 PM Re: Music... [Re: Veldrin]
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First off, it was a music discussion so talking about bands isn't out of the question.

It is true though that it's easy to blame music because no one wants to take responsibility for their own or for their child's actions. Whenever there's an incident on the news, the parent will say: "I had no idea." or blame other factors like a "bad crowd", etc.

Take it easy.

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#1086 - 10/15/07 05:09 AM Re: Music... [Re: Sinistar]
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A discussion about music is not simply listing bands.
Adding something about the band, or the style of music. Heck even the economic effects of their brand label sneakers would be a good thing.

But yeah agree with you on the other parts. So don't take it personally.

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#1217 - 10/21/07 03:45 PM Re: Music... [Re: Veldrin]
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Ha, ha! Not at all!
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#1252 - 10/24/07 02:25 PM Re: Music... [Re: Sinistar]
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The soundtrack to my high school years didn't consist of the depressive goth stuff. My tastes ran more toward anger and power and mostly consisted of bands in the hardcore/thrash/crossover genres. Now that I am old(er) I find that my musical tastes still reflect my mood which no longer consists of anger, but more of a seething contempt for the collective idiot. My current listening habits include ritual/dark/martial industrial and ambient, neo-folk and stoner rock.

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#1791 - 11/12/07 06:51 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: Sinistar]
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Hah, it's quite sad how once a cult band has been able to reduce to such a pitiful state. Once they used to be quite recognized in the field of blackmetal. Now with their latest album, Mayhem evidently didn't have anything new or intelligent to say, since all they had to offer was a full list of crimes and atrocities that the band members had committed to date, additional to the soundwaste ofcourse.
What had me laughing and initially had me grabbing my keyboard was this set of picture taken on one of their latest gigs.
How impressive can it be to tape symbols drawn on a paper to the drummer's set...
Say what you will or nothing at all, just had to share this.
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#1796 - 11/12/07 10:37 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
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Hah, it's quite sad how once a cult band has been able to reduce to such a pitiful state. Once they used to be quite recognized in the field of blackmetal. Now with their latest album, Mayhem evidently didn't have anything new or intelligent to say, since all they had to offer was a full list of crimes and atrocities that the band members had committed to date, additional to the soundwaste ofcourse.


Wow...I completely have to disagree with you here. What didn't you like about the album? I personally thought it was absolutely fantastic. It's some of their darkest (and best) material to date, at least in the latter incarnation (sans Euronymous). The guitar riffs are so twisted and it contains some of Hellhammer's best drumming. Honestly, I'm speaking from a total musical perspective, because I'm not very familiar with the lyrics (I recently moved and left all of my CD cases with lyric inserts in storage).

I feel that they have presented quite a new take on black metal, while still retaining some of the core elements that make black metal what it is. A band can remain somewhat within the confines of tradition and still push the boundaries of said tradition, which is what I feel Mayhem have done with this album. At the same time, it can be somewhat unconventional, which is another reason why I like it. I feel they are as relevant now as they ever were. In fact, this album is definitely in my top ten list for this year.

As for the symbols, they may not be impressive in the fashion in which they chose to display them, but there is some meaning behind them. They are symbols of world religions: the cross for Christianity, the crescent moon and star for Islam, the taijitu representing the forces of yin and yang of Taoism, and what appears to be, unless I am mistaken, a symbol in Sanskrit, the chief liturgical language of Hinduism and Buddhism. Mayhem, as you surely know, are very anti-religious, and not just against Christianity. Also, it looks like a rather small stage; there was probably not a lot of room for elaborate backdrops. Still, I'm not excusing the shitty presentation.

Anyway, to each his own. I can certainly understand why some wouldn't like the album, but I can also see why others would.
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#1835 - 11/13/07 03:14 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
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Can any of Mayhem's work post-De Mysteriis be considered Black Metal? I think it's evolved past the genre. Blasphemer is quoted as saying that he doesn't consider the music Mayhem has produced to be Black Metal. Everything from Wolfs Lair Abyss and on should be considered some kind of Avant Garde/Post-Black metal mix.

Ordo Ad Chao is definitely one of their darkest and heaviest works to date. Although I've always thought Attila's vocals to be annoying and out of place, they actually seem to fit with this album.
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#1837 - 11/13/07 04:03 AM Re: Music... [Re: Equilibrio]
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Interesting...as far as the whole dark and ambient thing have you ever heard of the band Sunn O))). They are a hard band to get in to mainly because they play a note every thirty seconds or so but for ritual use they are good. Also as far as the stoner/rock genre, I do not know if you are in to heavier stuff like High on Fire, Electric Wizard, Acid Kind and on another note Isis and Neurosis.I would highly recommend them. Also old Clutch's older stoner stuff is very good.

Does anybody here listen to Marilyn Manson. The guitar work on his more recent stuff is not the best but "Portrait of an American Family" may very well be one of the best alternative records of the 90's next to Tool'Aenima. Both records broke down a lot of barriers with their song writing againt religion and various political issues. Also if any of you have picked up "Eat Me, Drink Me"...Manson's new record you should try and give it a listen it shows some of his best song writing. If most of you listen to alternative/hard rock stations I am sure you have heard "You and Me and the Devil makes 3." It isn't the type of thing you will hear on the radio often.

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#1987 - 11/17/07 09:05 PM Re: Music... [Re: Traversez589]
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Sunn 0))) ? I'm more then impressed that some body here knows them, cheers my friend, those are really good.

On topic, One of my most beloved bands are Beherit, their old albums were awesome, true unholy black metal... sadly as most of the great bands they die. they switched to dark ambient for having most of members leaving the band.

As for other bands i would never say no to gorgoroth or nargaroth, the playing, the drumming, the lyrics are just true black and brilliant.

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#1989 - 11/17/07 09:45 PM Re: Music... [Re: sludge grave]
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my favorite band of late is behemoth

heres a song for ya

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4...earch&plindex=3
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#1990 - 11/17/07 09:51 PM Re: Music... [Re: rob_church]
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 Originally Posted By: rob_church
my favorite band of late is behemoth

heres a song for ya

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4...earch&plindex=3


Another great band, sadly they became blackened death metal after their 2004 album.

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#2011 - 11/19/07 08:58 AM Re: Music... [Re: Traversez589]
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Yes, I've had "Eat Me,Drink Me" for a few months now. I thought that it was Manson's best work, lyrically. My favorites on that c.d. are "Red Carpet Grave" and "You And Me And The Devil Makes 3".

Behemoth is good. Right now, my 2 favorites are Heaven Shall Burn ("Deaf To Our Prayers") and Dimmu Borgir ("In Sorte Diaboli"). Not exactly brand new but pretty current.
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#2019 - 11/19/07 12:20 PM Re: Music... [Re: Sinistar]
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Personally my taste in music hasn't changed much. I still listen to the stuff from the 80's, what I grew up on. Warrant, White Lion, Cinderella, Firehouse, you know all the long haired rockers. But I have added a little bit since then. Disturbed has tickled my fancy, as have Insane Clown Posse, Twiztid, and the rest of the artists signed to Psychopathic Records. I tend to mainly stick to underground music anyway. I recently started liking Cradle of Filth and Arch Enemy just to name a couple of the black metal bands that I listen to.
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#2022 - 11/19/07 03:45 PM Re: Music... [Re: The Blackangel]
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Wow, you just took me back to my high school days! Look up the "Counterculture" thread, "The 80's" subject.

Which Disturbed c.d. have you been listening to? I thought that "Believe" was the best one so far even though I liked all of them. Their lyrics are great. Disturbed is very underrated.

Cradle Of Filth and Arch Enemy are givens.
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#2036 - 11/19/07 05:29 PM Re: Music... [Re: Sinistar]
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I loved Cradle of Filth's "Jesus is a Cunt" T-shirt.

You'd have to be pretty stupid though to make an ass of yourself and wear it in certain public areas, even without the risk of arrest.


Still, it was damn funny ;\)

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#2076 - 11/20/07 08:55 AM Re: Music... [Re: Meq]
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That shirt looks strictly like a concert shirt and you have to wear a jacket over it for your travel time. Or else The Crusaders will get you...

I read somewhere that Cradle Of Filth aren't really Satanists, but Luciferians!

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#2152 - 11/23/07 02:06 AM Re: Music... [Re: Sinistar]
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I've found that I'm most productive as a song writer when I'm angry. I can write in other moods but most of my short rants had to come from being pissed off. I'm in my mid 30's and still listen to plenty of angry metal/punk/hardcore in addition to music I never thought I'd ever listen to when I was a young angry man.

As far as Stoner Rock goes, see Nebula. They write plenty of songs about distancing yourself from the shit that we call society and finding yourself. Not to mention they have a snippet of Crowley in their song "The Beast" from "Atomic Ritual".

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#2160 - 11/23/07 07:55 AM Re: Music... [Re: I.C. Graves]
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Any tool or a perfect circle fans out there.I'm a big metal fan listen to every thing from Death Metal to Guns and Roses and even some electrnica.However I haven't really come across any new bands over the last while that have really turned my head so I was just curious to see if any one could recommend any new bands similar to tool or a perfect circle or even In Flames
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#2168 - 11/23/07 01:34 PM Re: Music... [Re: jesusbeater]
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I listen to a fairly wide variety of music, though it's majorally in the Rock genre...metal, alternative (the "good" alternative, think early and mid-90's), electronica. Some of my favorites are In Flames, Mudvayne, Lacuna Coil, Perfect Circle and Tool, old Deftones, Stabbing Westward, Linkin Park, Bloodsimple, Killswitch Engage, Slipknot, Otep, Marilyn Manson (old stuff), The Offspring, Nirvana, Soundgarden, etc.

I really honestly can't stand so-called "Death Metal" or "Black Metal", mostly because it consists of 3-5 unshaven, scraggly-haired ugly fuckers with no vocal talent whatsoever and their riffs consist of nothing but downtuned chords. However, I have heard several bands where their music is fucking fantastic, but then the lead singer opens his mouth and it completely ruins it. Like Archenemy. I think she is a shitty vocalist. The rest of the band doesn't hold up well either, imo.

I enjoy a bit of harmony in my metal. A little bit of thought and effort. Putting your lips around the mic and doing a shitty death-growl is pathetic. Same goes for the guitar and bass. It's nothing new and all those kinds of bands sound too alike to really stand out. Blah.

But then, that's just me......
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#2184 - 11/24/07 04:25 AM Re: Music... [Re: jesusbeater]
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Well if you like good metal, Mastodon is one of the best bands I have just about ever heard. Meshuggah (my fave band of all time), The Dillinger Escape Plan and Between the Buried and Me are my favorites for tech-thrash/progressive. If you listen to any black metal I would recommend Satyricon, Dimmu Borgir, Cryptopsy and as mentioned before Behemoth are great. Children of Bodom, Opeth, The Haunted.."REvolver", their latest CD is superb, and Darkane are all bands I listen to on a regular basis and would recommend for someone who listens to In Flames.

As far as finding bands similar to tool and APC it is pretty hard seeing as how just about every modern rock band tries to imitate them...bands like chevelle and others not even worth mentioning. You could check out Maynard's other band Puscifer. They don't really resemble tool or APC that much but are good (think of "Counting Bodies Like Sheep")...something along those lines. Otherwise the Deftones and Neurosis are good bands similar to tool. Mike Patton (Faith No More, Fantomas, Tomahawk) also creates some of the best music in that genre. Maybe you would enjoy Tomahawk quite a bit I know I do.

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#2188 - 11/24/07 06:22 AM Re: Music... [Re: Traversez589]
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Manson is basically all I listen to. I have, like, four tee-shirts that I wear all the time (new ones, from the new album, just bought one today actually, it's in the wash as I type) and I bought all of the albums on C.D. from Amazon.com about 6 months ago. Before that I was listening to stolen music, but I felt that I wanted the C.D.s themselves, for the album art, the lyrics, and the legitimacy, I suppose. My last boyfriend actually felt that he had to compete with Manson for my affection for the first month or so, until he realized that I'm a much deeper person than the little fangirl I appear to be.

I love the new album, too, as much as his old stuff, though Holywood will always be my favorite album. I've found that most people who are fans of his work hate EMDM. I agree with those here who have said that it's his strongest work, lyrically. I scoff at those who say that all of the songs sound the same (a girl in my gym class said this once), because I see a lot of individuality in each song. They carry similar themes, musically, but so does all of the rest of his work. He makes a point to make albums like musical theater, where a single melody is carried from song to song in different variations. Many albums repeat seamlessly, with the end of the last track blending into the beginning of the first.

My favorite songs on EMDM are "Are you the Rabbit," "Mutilation is the Most Sincere Form of Flattery," and "Putting Holes in Happiness." Honestly, I don't think I've ever really listened to the song "Eat ME, Drink ME" all the way through while paying attention. I've played it in the car, but never really listened to it. I don't really know why.

A lot of people I know say that the new album is too soft, that it's emo, that he's giving in to what the public wants. I wonder, if he's giving in to our current Western fads, then why is he mostly touring in Eastern Europe and Asia? Really irritating in fact, I wish he'd done at least one concert in Seattle or Tacoma or something. Grrr... I just hope I see him live at some point before he dies... He's getting kind of old, by self-abusing, cokehead standards.

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#2198 - 11/24/07 03:21 PM Re: Music... [Re: Traversez589]
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just recently got into mastadon after hearing their new track on aqua teen movie.Really like Clutch too.
Got the Puscifer album and like it alot.Very different from his other stuff.Some of it is similar to stuff from the Tape Worm Project.
REAlly big Mike Patton fan as well.Got the Peepeing Tom album just the other day and have gone nuts about it already, Have the Fantomas album with the soundtrack covers and think its a work of genius.Think Mike Patton has and is years ahead of the pack and would lve to see him get the recognition he deserves.
Used to be a fan of Manson, but started going off him since Holwood.Think he's a great human being though but think he lost it for me.Do admire what he's done on the new album as it's obviously the type of music he likes at the moment so its seems like he didn't do an album for commercial reasons.he is maturing as an artist and am looking forward to he'sdebut as a filmmaker.
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#2214 - 11/24/07 10:24 PM Re: Music... [Re: jesusbeater]
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 Originally Posted By: jesusbeater
he is maturing as an artist and am looking forward to he'sdebut as a filmmaker.


Aren't we all... Have you heard anything about that? I thought it was supposed to come out last December, but of course that didn't happen. He kind of switched gears back to music, I guess. I haven't heard anything new about Phantasmagoria for a really, really long time. His website intro is back to the flashes of scenes from the movie that he'd taken off right before EMDM came out, but no actual news as far as I know. I only ask because everyone asks me. They assume I'm a Manson expert because I'm a Manson fan. Mostly this is the case, but there are things I don't know still.

My goodness, I sound like an obsessed fangirl... wow...

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#2238 - 11/25/07 02:40 PM Re: Music... [Re: undeadridinghood]
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don't know how much truth there is to it but I heard from a usually reliable source that he ran out of money making the movie and was advised to release another album and tour to make some money.Apparently he'll begin work on it again sometime next year.
Hope he does he's been going on about his movie career for years, he was originally lined up to play willy wonka in tim burtons movie and was ment to be working on another movie with American Mcgee in his Alice in Wonderland movie.
Has any one heard anything about the deftones new album?
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#2315 - 11/27/07 09:31 AM Re: Music... [Re: I.C. Graves]
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I'll definitely check out Nebula. That's a great idea because I should diversify the music on my iPod. It's mostly Death Metal and Thrash with a little bit of Goth thrown in (The Cure, Bauhaus, Christian Death).
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#2440 - 11/30/07 02:24 PM Re: Music... [Re: Sinistar]
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 Quote:
That's a great idea because I should diversify the music on my iPod. It's mostly Death Metal and Thrash with a little bit of Goth thrown in (The Cure, Bauhaus, Christian Death).


The types of music that I most enjoy include art music (colloquially termed as "classical"), especially solo classical guitar music, symphonic music, string quartets etc. I also enjoy metal music, mostly black/post-black, "viking" etc (Emperor, Enslaved, Borknagar, Satyricon, Immortal, Gorgoroth, Mayhem, Marduk, Dissection, Funeral Mist, Leviathan, Hell Militia, Blut Aus Nord, Deathspell Omega, Watain, ImpNaz, Akercocke, etc, etc) gothic doom (not stoner) such as My Dying Bride, Anathema, Paradise Lost, Theatre of Tragedy, Katatonia, Daylight Dies, Swallow the Sun; I also enjoy bands who where once thought of as metal but have moved into a more rock direction such as more recent Anathema, and the Gathering. I enjoy classic seventies rock like Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, King Crimson and more modern singer/songwriters like Jeff Buckley and Damien Rice. This list is by no means exhaustive, but is pretty representative of my tastes; to do a full list would be far too extensive.

It really is the strangest thing that as one gets older, one's music tastes do tend to diversify, as I can well attest. I'm by no means an old man, but I can certainly say that I listen to things now that I would have had reservations about when I was a teen. And, while I am diverse in my tastes, I'm not one of those people who claim to "like a little bit of every kind of music." I like what sounds good to me ; if I don't like the way something sounds, then I don't like it. I'm always left wondering if people like those described above are sincere in their affirmations that they like every kind of music or, out of fear of being thought of as closed-minded, lie. I know what I like and I know what I don't like. However, I'm always willing to listen to something, though it doesn't mean I will like it. I don't think that is being closed-minded, it's an aesthetic choice. Some people might argue that if one listens to a piece of music objectively, one will inevitably find something in it that one will see/hear as being good. One can listen to a piece objectively and find something "good" therein, but still can come away from the piece without liking it. I can listen to something that is, from a technical standpoint, executed flawlessly, but if it is in a style that I don't like, I won't really like the music.

I have also noticed a trend in talking with/observing various people, that certain people are more vocally oriented in their musical tastes, while others are more instrumental in their tastes. Some people prefer vocally interesting music while the instrumental parts are usually relegated to mundane harmonic function when the voice has the melody. Some like music that is interesting instrumentally while the voice is only mildly entertaining. Of course, it's not an exact science, but it is an interesting tendency to observe nonetheless.
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#2850 - 12/22/07 05:37 AM Re: Music... [Re: Draculesti]
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i feel left out, i listen to mostly hip-hop.
i'm curious to know all of your opinions on all the metal and punk sub-genres like grindcore, cybergore, pornogore, nintendocore etc.
i personally think it doesn't take much talent to play the sort of music. (with acceptations of course)
but it's damn refreshing to hear some new sounding music.
if you don't know what i'm talking about here are some examples so you may ALL give your intelligible opinions!

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=36034814

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=21828471

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=58313878

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=3279157

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=199923109

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=87264779

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#2851 - 12/22/07 08:57 AM Re: Music... [Re: L Fern Tej]
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well the name pornogore intrigued me to say the least:)

most of the links dont sound to bad a little to much gurgling and not enought growling for my taste but refreshing non the less thank you for sharing l fern tej
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#2967 - 12/27/07 11:42 PM Re: Music... [Re: rob_church]
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Anyone here make their own music?
I've been producing for about two years.
My Site
If you care to have a listen. \:\)
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#2978 - 12/28/07 11:48 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: DiabolusFilius]
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Well, since we're on the topic of Mayhem and black metal;

First of all, Black Metal music can be comparitively far more diverse in soundscapes than it's predecessor, death metal. You pretty much have to lose the vocal style alltogether to not be black. Now as for Mayhem, Wolf's Lair Abyss, which followed De Mysteriis, is black metal to the core. But the album following that, Grand Declaration, is most definately (in my opinion of course) uninspired throw away trash that exposes just how poor a musician Maniac is both vocally and lyrically, and truly strayed from the Black Metal arena. But then, with Chimera, we see Mayhem attempt to approach Black Metal roots (as admitted by the band pre-recording), as Blasphemer creates an incredibly effective combination of trash and black metal guitar playing. If you want an example of when Black Metal becomes Avante Garde, you need to look towards a band such as Arcturus who actually did evolve beyond the tenets of Black Metal. At any rate, ultimately Mayhem's change in musical direction has been as a result of their lineup change, which has been prioritized by idiotic principles (again, I'm not being very subjective in my statements). The media and the scene criticized Mayhem to such an extreme degree (after Per Ingvie and Oystein's death) in regards to now excluding so much of the original lineup, that Hellhammer allowed himself to be pressured into allowing previous members Maniac and Blasphemer back into the fold, rather than seeking what was best for the band. I'm personally infinitely irritated by Maniac's incredible lack of talent and Blasphemer's thrash metal orientation corrupting what was once the epitome, partial inception, and all too quickly deteriation of an incredibly Black musical outfit. This concludes my rant.
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#3237 - 01/09/08 10:27 AM Re: Music... [Re: Nemesis]
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Blasphemy!!! Archenemy rocks!!! You...you blasphemer!!! \:\)
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#3238 - 01/09/08 10:38 AM Re: Music... [Re: Sinistar]
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Anyone want to share their best albums of the year? Here's a few of mine:
Dimmu Borgir - "In Sorte Diaboli"
Marilyn Manson - "Eat Me Drink Me"
King Diamond - "Give Me Your Soul...Please"
Watain - "Sworn to the Dark"
Heaven Shall Burn - "Deaf to our Prayers"
Sigh - "Hangman's Hymn"
Marduk - "ROM 5:12"
All That Remains - "The Fall of Ideals"
Last but not least...
Archenemy - "Rise of the Tyrant"
Angela Gossow...Angela Gossow...Angela Gossow...Angela Gossow


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#3343 - 01/11/08 02:11 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: DiabolusFilius]
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Do you ever go through moments in life where you are "addicted" to one c/d (band). Right now i'am "addicted" to Lamb Of GOD's, Ashes of the Wake, its almost like the fuckin c/d is predicting my "spiritual" growth, and/or helpimg or telling me how to deal with events in my current life situations. Fuckin bizzare hu?
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#3603 - 01/20/08 04:34 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: Bridgett Leavitt]
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 Originally Posted By: Bridgett Leavitt
Do you ever go through moments in life where you are "addicted" to one c/d (band). Right now i'am "addicted" to Lamb Of GOD's, Ashes of the Wake, its almost like the fuckin c/d is predicting my "spiritual" growth, and/or helpimg or telling me how to deal with events in my current life situations. Fuckin bizzare hu?


That happens to me all the time...it's a bit disturbing sometimes because I wonder if some of these guys are reading my thoughts or know some things about my life. Spoooky!

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#3613 - 01/20/08 11:54 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: Soluna666]
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 Originally Posted By: Soluna666
 Originally Posted By: Bridgett Leavitt
Do you ever go through moments in life where you are "addicted" to one c/d (band). Right now i'am "addicted" to Lamb Of GOD's, Ashes of the Wake, its almost like the fuckin c/d is predicting my "spiritual" growth, and/or helpimg or telling me how to deal with events in my current life situations. Fuckin bizzare hu?


That happens to me all the time...it's a bit disturbing sometimes because I wonder if some of these guys are reading my thoughts or know some things about my life. Spoooky!


Yeah, I suppose we all have at one point or another.

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#3617 - 01/21/08 08:35 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: Bridgett Leavitt]
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 Originally Posted By: Bridgett Leavitt
Do you ever go through moments in life where you are "addicted" to one c/d (band). Right now i'am "addicted" to Lamb Of GOD's, Ashes of the Wake, its almost like the fuckin c/d is predicting my "spiritual" growth, and/or helpimg or telling me how to deal with events in my current life situations. Fuckin bizzare hu?


I have also been addicted to the very same record for some time now. And I just found a new record to listen to. I wasn't even sure I liked it at first but yet had to listen to it over again. It a Swedish band called Shining and the latest record V Halmstad is pretty excellent in its own depressive way. It's quite suicidal from beginning to the end. Which I suppose is the basic idea judging from the cover art... Too bad they sing in swedish so I only understand a word from here and there \:\(

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#5243 - 03/10/08 11:52 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
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Hey, im from Sweden.


The type of music i like really does vary alot between styles.
In a random playlist on my pc i could have everything from Billy Idol to Dimmu Borgir to Skrewdriver on there.

I like Industrial Metal alot but also some Black Metal, Numetal, Other types of metal, Oi! Punk, White Power music, 90's grunge and hiphop.
Some of my favourite bands are Dimmu Borgir, Ministry, Stabbing Westward, Skrewdriver, Nine Inch Nails and Marilyn Manson. So that says a bit.

I havent seen anybody else on here much into Industrial stuff tho.

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#5278 - 03/11/08 09:11 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: TheMask]
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heres a band i discovered the other day auzzy metal and just brutal, techno combined with metal i cant stop listening to them great stuff enjoy may i present THE BERZERKER

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeJ2DXW7k3o&feature=related
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#5280 - 03/11/08 10:28 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: TheMask]
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 Originally Posted By: TheMask

I havent seen anybody else on here much into Industrial stuff tho.


I'm a big fan of industrial black metal. Currently I'm listening Redharvest, Void, Blacklodge and V:28. All the others except Void can also be found on myspace, if you haven't already heard them.
They can be easily found on my myspace from the top friens, if you want to check them out: http://www.myspace.com/adeptussatanicus

Also check the artist Krank in my top friends, great noicy dark industrial...


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#5281 - 03/11/08 10:29 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: rob_church]
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I used to like the Berzerker's earlier stuff, when they still had computer drums. The sound was much more brutal. It's not bad with a live drummer, but it just doesn't make me tick...
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#5289 - 03/11/08 11:27 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
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sweet thanks for the links maggotfacemoe im really digging v:28 and now im of to find some earlier berzerker as i cant wait to hear them,even more brutal as you say:)
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#5290 - 03/11/08 11:32 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: rob_church]
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I will post more great industrial bands I have found when I have more time. But nice to hear you I was of any help.
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#5291 - 03/11/08 11:45 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
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 Originally Posted By: MaggotFaceMoe
 Originally Posted By: TheMask

I havent seen anybody else on here much into Industrial stuff tho.


I'm a big fan of industrial black metal. Currently I'm listening Redharvest, Void, Blacklodge and V:28. All the others except Void can also be found on myspace, if you haven't already heard them.
They can be easily found on my myspace from the top friens, if you want to check them out: http://www.myspace.com/adeptussatanicus

Also check the artist Krank in my top friends, great noicy dark industrial...


Whoa, awesome dude. I havent heard of the genre "industrial black metal" before but it seems worth checking out. \:o

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#5305 - 03/11/08 04:47 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: TheMask]
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Im a big fan of industrial black metal aswell,but i would have to say im realy into Blackend Death metal more just because of my favorite band Behemoth!!
They are the fucking Gods of Metal in all standings,plus i've read that the lead singer Nergal is realy into Satanism as we are an back when he was around 16 him an abunch of black metal band members burned down a church next to Nergals house!!As i can realy relate to that cause i've also burned down a church that is just a block away from my house,So as i read about nergal an his past i felt like me an him are one in the same person you know plus his Lyrics are wicked an his voice is the voice of a fucking god!!I Love Behemoth an for those who havent heard them go check them out...
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#5313 - 03/11/08 08:33 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: DiabolusFilius]
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Well, on my PSP, I have (in no particular order) Fear Factory, Strapping Young Lad, Alanis Morissette, Bryan Adams, Phil Collins, Devildriver, Scar Symmetry, Michael Jackson, King Diamond, A, The Seatbelts, Craig David, Crush 40, Decapitated, Drowning Pool, Disturbed, Lee Jackson, Feeder, Iron Maiden, God Dethroned, Ill Nino, Linkin Park, Stan Bush, Spectre General (otherwise known as Kick Axe), Vince DiCola, Slayer, Slipknot, System of a Down, Lee Brotherton, Zebrahead, Static-X, The Darkness, The Duke, The Offspring, Goo Goo Dolls, Trivium, Corona, The Corrs, Rick Astley, Paul Simon, The Outfield, Peter Cetera, The Who, this list just goes on.

As you can gather, I have a very diverse taste in music. I especially love metal and 80's pop & rock.

The reason why I love these particular styles and bands? Cuz to me, they sound good. I'm not bothered about their belief systems or what they do in their spare time (and even though I think Jacko's a wrong 'un, I still love his music...). So long as they create music that's got substance, groove and melody, I'll listen to them.
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#5348 - 03/11/08 11:38 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: DistroyA]
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 Originally Posted By: DistroyA
The reason why I love these particular styles and bands? Cuz to me, they sound good. I'm not bothered about their belief systems or what they do in their spare time (and even though I think Jacko's a wrong 'un, I still love his music...). So long as they create music that's got substance, groove and melody, I'll listen to them.


I dont care that much about the belief system either nowadays even if i still have a dislike for christian bands. I tried to get into Black Metal a bit which failed since i was lazy but one thing i adored about it was the belief system that i thought they had. Later do i find out that most of them are posers and i just got an off-taste for it. I still listen to whats good in BM that i know off but i dont try much getting into it. Satanists dont have to be "hard, black and evil" all the time.


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#5350 - 03/11/08 11:40 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: DiabolusFilius]
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Music is music. Religion has nothing to do with it -- if it sounds good, listen to it. If you hate it, shut it the fuck up.

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#5378 - 03/12/08 11:43 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: TheMask]
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I tried to get into black metal also. But I really really don't like it. There's only one song I like out of the black metal genre, and it's a Dimmu Borgir track. Architecture of a Genocidal Nature was the name of it I believe. But even witht hat, I still hate black metal. I'm more of a death metal kid to be honest. God Dethroned, Fear Factory (early stuff of course) and Decapitated are my favourites out of that genre, although Fear Factory are my all-time favourite band anyway. Some melodic death metal seems pretty cool, like Scar Symmetry and early Construcdead. It all boils down to the individuals own personal tastes. And that's one of my personal tastes.

I'm just wondering out of curiosity, for those who are into heavy metal, what was the first band that got you into metal?
For me, it was Black Sabbath, and then Iron Maiden, and more followed later.
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#5380 - 03/12/08 11:47 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: DistroyA]
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It was Metallica's "Enter Sandman" for me that got me heavily into metal, but as you well know, Metallica isn't a black metal band. Trivium followed, then Rammstein, etc.
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#5382 - 03/12/08 11:56 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: DaVinci]
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Well, I meant heavy metal as a whole, not just a sub genre really.

On the note of Sandman, I think that was the first Metallica song I'd heard from their repertoire. The best has to be Battery in my opinion.
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#5414 - 03/12/08 07:28 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: DistroyA]
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Ah, Dimmu Borgir. Thats one of my favourite bands. I saw them live, it was swell. They arent considered traditional black metal (even though i couldnt care less) since they use keyboards and things to make their music sound great and epic, so maybe thats why you happened to care for them more then usual black metal. \:o Just a thought.
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#5434 - 03/12/08 09:08 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: TheMask]
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all i was allowed to listen to was singing bibles as a young child then one day i heard i am the godamm devil by ugly kid joe and it changed my life, not metal by any means but compared to singing bibles it was lol i skipped the whole metallica and megadeath craze after that and just jumped right into ministry/slayer/propain and early fear factory
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#5435 - 03/12/08 09:16 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: rob_church]
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Ahh yes, another Fear Factory fan (well, kinda). I still think that Demanufacture is the best album they've done by far, due to the overall sound and the theme of the album. Plus it's almost as raw as SOANM. What's you're opinion on the latest material?
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#5443 - 03/12/08 09:56 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: DistroyA]
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ha you mean that rap nu metal cross breed lol. not a high opinion at all to be honest:) and yes demanafacture is in my opinion the best as well, althought dog day sunrise just annoys me the rest of the album is gold:)
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#5446 - 03/12/08 10:39 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: rob_church]
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Hahahaha, that's fucking scary. I've always found DDS to be the weakest song on the album (although every so often, it is refreshing to hear it).

As for the nu-metal rapping, that would have been on the Digimortal album. And I will agree with you that that album is a pile of shit compared to the other stuff. I hope you didn't refer to Archetype or Transgression, since I found no rapping whatsoever on either album.

Yes, their biggest mistake was recording Back The Fuck Up. Without a doubt. It just did not suit the style of the band as a whole.
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#5913 - 03/19/08 09:42 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: TheMask]
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Some of my favorite bands are Dimmu Borgir, Venom, Cradle Of Filth, Malevolent Creation, The Faceless, Metallica, HIM, In Flames, and Children of Bodom.

I do listen to R&B and other genre's of rock but not too much. I really dislike Rap/Hip Hop with a passion.
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#6352 - 03/25/08 08:50 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: DeathIsWicked]
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Rap and R&B really hasn't been good for about 10 years now. It's funny how the 2 genres like to differentiate from each other but traveled down that same downward trend at the same time. The music that's out there now is not progressive at all.

Dimmu Borgir is just awesome. In the Christmas edition of Revolver magazine, Shagrath actually stated that the so-called "feud" between Dimmu Borgir and Cradle of Filth is a media lie (What else is new?) and he thinks highly of Dani Filth and co. Awwww, doesn't peace and harmony in Black Metal just give you the warm and fuzzies?
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#6375 - 03/25/08 07:02 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: Sinistar]
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Personally, I'm more into black metal and melodic black metal. Bands like: Cradle of Filth, Dimmu Borgir, Satyricon, Gorgoroth, Illnath, Tvangeste, Darktrhone, and other bands of the same type. I honestly have to say I listen to this kind of stuff because when I do, I feel sort of empowered. I'm sure most of you know the feeling, I feel like my body is being lifted. If I close my eyes I feel as if I'm a part of the music. Thats what I love.
I'm sorry I can't stand hip-hop, rap, country, pop, or anything else of the like. I find the lyrical content degrading, piss poor, and almost always too much alike in every song.
The other thing I can't stand is the emo genre of music. Bands such as Death Cab For Cutie, My Chemical Romance, and From First To Last just have a way of annoying me. I listen to any song from any of these genres and I feel instantly annoyed. I don't know why I feel this way, maybe I'm being close-minded. I just don't find any aspects of them at all appealing. As with other people here who don't take to Black Metal too well. Which is fine.

Also I think thrash metal is okay but I don't like listenign to it really. If it's on I wont complain. Speed metal like Dragonforce annoys the hell outta me. >_>. Lol.

Oh an Sinistar I actually remember reading that somewhere else as well. That Shagrath thinks nothing really negative about Dani. But I heard it was just a misonception that they didn't bother publicly clearing up. Either way, it's all good.
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#6388 - 03/25/08 10:26 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: PigFeeder]
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I agree with your perspective on Black Metal Music. It is my true love, and has been so for many years. It's the sound track to whatever I do. Ironing, working out, getting ready for work, coming home from work...you get the picture!

I just joined this group yesterday, and this my first reply.

It's good to meet you!...Warschau

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#6481 - 03/27/08 03:44 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: Warschau]
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Sounds like Metal is the music of most Satanists.... Anyone up for some jazz or swing?
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#6497 - 03/27/08 06:57 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: PansGirl_v2.3]
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I'm always up for some jazz and swing. Lately, I can't get enough gypsy jazz. Django Reinhardt, Biréli Lagrène, the Rosenberg Trio...

I've also been getting more into gypsy punk. Gogol Bordello, Zdob şi Zdub, Beirut, etc.

I suppose the fact that I have just acquired an accordion might have something to do with my recent infatuation with gypsy inspired music.

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#6501 - 03/27/08 08:12 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: PansGirl_v2.3]
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I love swing. I'm also a big fan of vocalists or standards. Folks like Sinatra, Dean, Louis Prima, and Cole. I dig lounge as well. Rockabilly is a fave genre. I love old country. Porter Wagner, Cash, Waylon, Willie, Chet, both Hanks.
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#6520 - 03/28/08 02:17 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: fakepropht]
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I love any kind of music if its good, but new music is really taking a turn for the worst. Rap is horriable now, its all the same word repeated over and over. And rock is just blah. But some of the music is still good. Just nothing that they play on the radio, unless you have xm or something.
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#6524 - 03/28/08 09:03 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: Equilibrio]
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I too can't get enough of Trio Rosenberg. Perhaps the best guitarists in the world.
Sadly I haven't been able to get my hands on a cd. I was working on a radio station a few years back and copied two of their cd's on minidisc, but they have since disappeared too.
I must get back to hunting for them it seems...


Edited by MaggotFaceMoe (03/28/08 09:03 AM)

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#7418 - 04/08/08 08:25 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
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I just discovered a new damn good band playing somewhat western tunes and dark lyrics. It's called The Coffinshakers, I thought I'd post a link here should anyone else be interested.

http://www.myspace.com/coffinshakers

I particularly liked the song Walpurgis Night. And now I'm off to purchase their album.

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#7433 - 04/08/08 08:15 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
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Wow, very Johnny Cash-ish. They sound good! From Romania? Hmmmm...
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#7434 - 04/08/08 08:56 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: fakepropht]
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And lets not forget David Allen Coe. Almost unheard of here in Australia, but one of my fav country artists since I was a teenager working in a leathershop and bush art gallery. \:\)

And not country but incredibly good. Frank Zappa. My hubby is a Zappy head and has just about all of his albumn and CD's.

Actually we have a gold album of Sheik Ubeity, with a pictore off the album cover in a frame (as they do) and when my daughter was about 8 and she saw it for the first time she innocently asked "Is that God Mummy?" To which I replied "Your father thinks it is honey".

Sorry slightly off track, but amusing none the less.

Zappa was very bent for one so straight. He was once quoted as saying that drugs were the second most boring thing in the world, second only to religion.

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Edited by ZephyrGirl (04/08/08 09:00 PM)
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#7439 - 04/09/08 09:57 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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Hrmm. I listened to them and didn't like them at all. Is that like Blugrass? Anyway it reminds of amish singing. THe one thing I have to say yay to is the fact that they sing a lot about Satan and hell. Which I found in the least, amusing. In a good way. ;\)
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#7445 - 04/09/08 05:57 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: PigFeeder]
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I'm guessing that you are actually replying to someone rather than me?

If so, you should pres the Reply button ON THEIR POST, or alternatively quote the post you are talking to.

By just replying to the generic last post and not identifying whom you are addressing, is how minsunderstandings occur.

Not a big deal in this case, but sometimes it gets alot of heat stirred up unnessarily.

Zeph ;\)
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#7458 - 04/10/08 08:17 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: ZephyrGirl]
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Sorry about that, figured everyone would generally realize I was replying to the current subject, the band of which I forget the name. Lol. The one with the myspace link. Anyway I'll remember that for the future.
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#7474 - 04/10/08 10:28 PM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: MaggotFaceMoe]
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Awesome. Nem, you drew my interest when you said Cashish. I would disagree with you. Though the singer might have the same baritone range, the style of music is different. I can't put my finger on it right now, but they are very familiar to another band. This will be something I wake up at 3 in the morning, going "Aha, it's.....". And the wife will look at me once again like I have lost my mind. This band is right up my alley and I will probably try to find their album over the weekend. Nice find MFM!!

Zeph, thanks for mentioning DAC. One of the most underated artists of country music. He wrote a million hits for more recognized artists, had some hits of his own, and still continues to tour to this day. I admire his work as well. Perhaps it's his unwillingness to bend to the rules of Nashville that will never see him get the accolades he deserves.
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#7482 - 04/11/08 05:13 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: Nemesis]
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Well, actually the Romania thing is just to give a Transylvanian impression since they have a lot of that dracula thing going on. With some research I found out they are from Sweden. But good none the same.
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#7483 - 04/11/08 05:21 AM Re: Music... If Mayhem can be called such [Re: fakepropht]
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If you can't find it from the States, the record shop X ships world wide. I'm not sure if they have any distribution over there since the record labels aren't that big either.
But here's the address to the shop in english:
http://www.recordshopx.com/

I just bought their album Dark wings over Finland which was pretty good too, but I personally like the new stuff a bit more.
Next week I'm supposed to get hands on their latest album. Olé!

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